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THIS IS HUGE: TRUMP UP BY 12 in MN Working Class District! And Dems Going Independent
American Lookout.com via Gateway Pundit ^ | October 26, 2016 5:17 pm | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/27/2016 6:32:57 PM PDT by GilGil

The eighth Congressional District of Minnesota is a working class area in Eastern Minnesota. It has voted for a Democrat in the last four Presidential elections. It has a Democrat Congressman and will likely be the most expensive Congressional race this year.

Usually, a Democrat Presidential candidate would win. But a recent poll held a shock:

Donald Trump is up 12 points!

And more: Trump is winning among women. And the Democrat Party is losing members. They’re becoming Independents.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016polls; bluestates; clinton; demsfortrump; election; independents; mn2016; mn8; trump; trumplandslidecoming
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To: Thickman
Your map sucks. Trump will take MI, ME, VT, NJ, CO, NV, WI, and possibly NY state.

Trump is NOT going to lose NY state.

21 posted on 10/27/2016 7:11:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (TRUMP THAT BEYOTCH!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

that is a pretty extreme statement...


22 posted on 10/27/2016 7:12:48 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: GilGil

I don’t know...if this keeps up how are the Dems ever going to cheat enough to win?


23 posted on 10/27/2016 7:13:22 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: jonno
Not at all. You have to remember, turnout models and polls from 2012 are OBSOLETE. They've been totally destroyed by Trump's campaign.

Trump is putting the Rust Belt states (trade, economy) and Northeast states into play, by his virtue of being a New Yorker. He doesn't need PA to win; he is rope-a-doping Clinton into spending resources into PA while he quietly develops a ground game in NY and CA.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump will win a minimum of 45 states, and he'll be the first presidential candidate to exceed 100 million votes.

24 posted on 10/27/2016 7:17:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (TRUMP THAT BEYOTCH!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m assuming Romney lost in MN-8. In 2012, Democrat Rick Nolan ousted Republican Chip Cravaack in that district. Cravaack held it for a single term after winning it from James Oberstar, some 200 year-old Democrat guy who held it since Abe Lincoln was in office.


25 posted on 10/27/2016 7:26:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Actually I agree with you (I was mostly just having fun with your ‘extreme’ moniker 8^)


26 posted on 10/27/2016 7:28:35 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: dp0622
I don't see any scenario where Trump wins Minnesota. 5 of the state's 8 congressional districts are in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area, and they will overwhelm the votes of the three rural districts.

The good news about this race is that it is a good bellwether for similar demographic profiles in other states where Trump's odds of winning are better -- especially Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

27 posted on 10/27/2016 7:29:44 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

From your lips to God’s ears. The problem with my (former) home state of NY is that all the conservative votes in upstate are washed out by deep blue NYC.

That being said, I haven’t seen such depression of spirit as I see in New York. This could be the year people rebel. Trump is what this state needs.


28 posted on 10/27/2016 7:30:10 PM PDT by bigred44
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To: GilGil

TTTT!


29 posted on 10/27/2016 7:36:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alberta's Child

Wisconsin and Michigan. Interesting.


30 posted on 10/27/2016 7:41:18 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Alberta's Child

Having lived here in MN since 1985 (and in Wisconsin prior) I tend to share your skepticism with claims that Trump will carry Minnesota. That said, I’m a city administrator (yes conservative city administrators, while rare, do exist!)and I interact with lots of traditional personally conservative but left of center in elections type democrats. I’m hearing enough comments from these folks to sum my anecdotal “poll” as such: a few are voting for Trump, some say they will be supporting Johnson and many are just choosing to skip that race on the ballot. This was the state where Jesse Ventura won in a 3-way race with a plurality of the vote but nowhere near the majority (and the democrat coming in third) so if conservatives and independents vote Trump and traditional democrats don’t vote or vote third party... Trump can indeed pull this off. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Minnesota gives Johnson the largest percentage vote total in the nation. In recent days I’ve started saying if Trump can reach 43-47% of the vote here he could come out on top in Minnesota of all places. If Pence or Trump himself drops in for an airport rally in this state that would be a great sign that internal polls have MN in realistic striking distance.


31 posted on 10/27/2016 7:46:52 PM PDT by Dan C (We are what we repeatedly do - excellence therefore is not an act but a habit. Aristotle)
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To: Dan C

Thank you ... excellent summary of where things stand there in Minnesota. I won’t ask where you work, but I’ll tell you that I love traveling out there when I can! I’ve canoed the Boundary Waters in the past, and I crossed the border at International Falls on my last trip back from northern Ontario in 2014.


32 posted on 10/27/2016 7:56:01 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Dan C
Interesting item on Jesse Ventura:

Did you know that Donald Trump mounted a brief campaign for the Reform Party presidential nomination in 2000 -- at the urging of Ventura?

33 posted on 10/27/2016 8:00:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Thickman
I expected that Trump would outperform among AA and that AA turnout would also be lower. I figured 15% for Trump and 10% fewer total AA votes.

All available evidence is pointing towards your prediction being right. Black voters will not turn out for Hillary with the same enthusiasm and numbers that they turned out for Obama.

In addition, a new and radical mindset is taking hold among blacks. More and more of them are beginning to question their people's dogged, monolithic loyalty to the Democrat party - especially in light of the fact that conditions in their communities have actually worsened over the last eight years of Obama.

Donald Trump is the perfect candidate to coax such people 'off the plantation'. They've known and admired him for decades, and yes saying all the things they want to hear.

This Election, we may see as much as 20% of blacks switch sides to vote for Trump. In 2020 it will be 50%.

34 posted on 10/27/2016 8:10:48 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I try to go to the BWCA every year with a college friend of mine and some of his friends from church. I’m now in the SW part of the state right on the remains of the original Yellowstone Trail - but I lived 17 years in the north metro before finally having enough and moving out to the country (an odd decision to some seeing that I’m a city administrator by trade.)


35 posted on 10/27/2016 8:11:34 PM PDT by Dan C (We are what we repeatedly do - excellence therefore is not an act but a habit. Aristotle)
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To: Dan C

LOL — I hear ya.


36 posted on 10/27/2016 8:13:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: crz

“I predict a Trump gets over 311 el votes.”

I like the way you think. I wish more Freepers had your fighting spirit. Maybe over the next four years, President Trump can help them find their courage again.


37 posted on 10/27/2016 8:19:09 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I never heard that tidbit about Trump and Ventura. It doesn’t surprise me. I got to know Ventura a bit during his tenure as governor and I was at the capitol the day he was sworn in (as a guest of a neighbor who was sworn in as state rep that day). I tell you if he had told the legislature he wanted Lake Superior dyed orange they would have debated all night as to which shade would be best - they were that in fear of him at first due to his shocking win on election day. Minnesota, or at least greater MN (non-metro)is what I would describe as “old world” or “traditional FDR” democrat in that they have conservative roots but social justice flairs to their religious upbringings which tends to make them vote for democrats who “care” but in reality they are probably best described as confused independents. That’s why Rubio and Sanders won the state - why Ventura knocked the democrat in the race (Hubert Humphrey’s grandson no less) to a humiliating 3rd place. If any Republican could pull off a surprise win here, Trump has the best chance since Reagan in 1984 (which some say he did win except for voting anomalies that were given a pass by Reagan in order to let Mondale win his own state.)


38 posted on 10/27/2016 8:23:03 PM PDT by Dan C (We are what we repeatedly do - excellence therefore is not an act but a habit. Aristotle)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Trump is NOT going to lose NY state.”

I love it!

Trump’s winning attitude is beginning to spread like wildfire. Our side needs that attitude more than ever. We’ve been demoralized for far too long.


39 posted on 10/27/2016 8:25:02 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Steven W.

I was about to note that as well.


40 posted on 10/27/2016 8:26:09 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (A is A)
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