Posted on 10/20/2016 5:06:06 AM PDT by kimtom
BEIJING, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte announced his "separation" from the United States on Thursday, declaring that it had "lost" and he had realigned with China as the two agreed to resolve their South China Sea dispute through talks.
Duterte made his comments in China, where he is visiting with at least 200 business people to pave the way for what he calls a new commercial alliance as relations with longtime ally the United States deteriorate.
His trade secretary, Ramon Lopez, said $13.5 billion in deals would be signed
Duterte's efforts to engage China, months after a tribunal ruling in the Hague over South China Sea disputes in favor of the Philippines, marks a reversal in foreign policy since the 71-year-old former mayor took office on June 30.
"America has lost now," Duterte told Chinese and Philippine business people at a forum in the Great Hall of the People, attended.........
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Perhaps it has more to do with the Philippines strategic geographic location threatening 40% or more of the world's trade passing through the South China Sea.
I think you have to elaborate to convince us
Eventually MOST of Asia will tilt towards China, away from the US, even Japan and South Korea. I wouldn’t be surprised if in 40 years, there are Chinese naval bases in Hawaii.
No, we defend freedom, and those regions that benefit are going to get the bill, and then pay that bill either directly or indirectly. Leviathan magnus est
The reason is clear if the media would report on what the professionals in the Phils are saying.
The Phils is too weak to defy China - its one of the most unmilitary countries on earth, is much too poor to aquire the expensive air and naval forces to protect itself from such a powerful enemy, and both the US and the regional allies -Japan, Korea - have provided very little military aid.
On top of that, the US did not offer credible guarantees in case China started to, say, enforce its claim to control shipping through the South China Sea. That would amount to a blockade on Philippine trade.
Btw, in case anyone cares, this is not about invading the Philippines. China doesnt want it and its unnecessary. All China needs to do is blockade its maritime trade. That would suffice to shut down the Philippine economy.
Any Philippine government would need to make a realistic decision under these circumstances.
I am in awe with the total incompetence of obama and the rest of the government.
Trump is our last hope.
Gee, you’d think that after the scolding Hellary gave Dutarte in September about dissing Obama, he’d fall in line.
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Do you have a link?
That would mean that Clinton lost the Philippines.
That is a nice sound bite.
So how much is the Philippine's bill going to be?
I hope you’re right. My wife is from Mindanao, Duterte’s island. She watches YouTube videos from the Philippines every day to keep up with what’s happening.
Under the previous president, corruption, crime and drug abuse were allowed to run unchecked. The police forces couldn’t do anything about it because they had too few men and were underpaid. The voters got so disgusted with this that they turned in droves to the candidate who promised to get tough on the drug pushers.
So much for the other territory we gained via the Spanish-American war.
We lost Cuba in 1959.
This is a result desired by Obama's ideology.
Disagree completely. This is the consequence of dropping a monkey wrench into a set of gears. Before he became a US Senator, Obama couldn't properly operate a credit card. His finances were a mess and he was deep in debt. Had he not won that Illinois Senate seat, he would have been on the street in a few months.
Did you see that housing project this "community organizer" managed? Utterly bumbled in every conceivable way.
The man is a jive talking simpleton who destroys things because he lacks the intelligence to do otherwise. But for the media promoting this unaccomplished jackass we would have never heard of him.
Obama (ie The Oligarchy) is definitely the dumber one. The main positive the US had was it’s mojo. It’s exceptionalism. Without that, led by crooks, we are actually more dangerous to our friends than our enemies. And just take a look at a map. The Philippines are either going to join with China or be rolled by China. No other choice is available. But to piss it all away by supporting drug gang bangers ? The worse foriegn affairs President in US history.
China won’t complain when Duterte starts slaughtering the Muslims. Can’t say I’d do any different were I in Duterte’s place. What’s he got to gain by putting Filipinos at risk just to satisfy the Muslim in our White House?
Under Obama it has been.
>>The disastrous foreign policy of the Obama Administration claims another loss.
Countries that have tanked or turned away from the US during this imbecile’s occupation:
Egypt
Libya
Syria
Iraq
Ukraine
Venezuela
Philippines<<
When the people elect dictators I thi8nk it is only natural that they would shun the freedoms we have here. When I think of the lives and dollars spent in the countries that you listed, I have to ask what was the gain for the American people? Are we supposed to nurse the world back to health?
I recall years ago conservatives used to say that he could not speak without a Teleprompter, that was to misapprehend a very facile politician who has demonstrated on many occasions that he is nimble when he wants to be. Lately, he is shown that he wants to be very nimble indeed when it comes to dismantling our constitutional republic and imperiling our national security. He has succeeded in shredding the Constitution, vesting power in himself as executive, skirting the Constitution with executive orders and bureaucratic regulations, eviscerating the military, running up the debt, weakening us abroad and turning one against another at home.
Saul ALinsky could not be more proud of his acolyte. His is A remarkable record of achievement for an ideologue and an almost inconceivable trail of wreckage to have occurred by accident through incompetence.
>> Perhaps it has more to do with the Philippines strategic geographic location threatening 40% or more of the world’s trade passing through the South China Sea.
>>I think you have to elaborate to convince us
Dutarte was elected on an anti drug platform and his solution to the drug problem is popular. This drug problem was born in the cargo bays of Air America, whose muling of China White from the Golden Triangle via our military bases in the Philippines is a matter of record to the point that a comedy film was made of it.
Dutarte, like most of the 3rd World has had it up to their necks with our CIA staged coups, assassinations, and puppet tin horn crypto-Nazi dictators. This is not about China’s sphere of influence or shipping choke points or geopolitics. It is about a 3rd World nation state throwing off the yoke of the American Empire, just like we originally did to the Brits. China is marginally a communist government, its capitalists are calling most of the shots any more. The Philippeans sees development loans from BRICS as far more attractive than the extortionary IMF and World Bank debt farming. These developing nations want to borrow money for their own infrastructure evolution, not for Utah Construction Co. to build rails and highways for the specific purpose of raw materials extraction for United Fruit or Cargil or Bunge or Continental or Dreyfus or Nestle’s. We made this bed, we damned well gonna sleep in it.
He accomplishes this for the same reason he accomplished his own election. But wait! He didn't accomplish his own election. The media did that for him. That same media would be "RED ALERT" and screaming from the rooftop if a Republican President attempted to do any of the things that Obama has done.
Again, his success at doing these corrupt and stupid things are not his. They are the consequence of that power block known as the Media, allowing it.
On this topic, I have recently had an epiphany. I used to believe the media was liberal because of demographic factors relating to it's location and the mindset of heavily urban people, but it recently occurred to me that perhaps the media is liberal specifically because the beneficiaries of Government spending constitute a wealthy and influential power block that runs the media and insures that "the media" will promote ideas that support the best interests of these power blocks.
I recall the budget battles of the mid 1990s and I remember thinking at the time, "Why would anyone be against a balanced budget?" Well the media was definitely against it at the time, and they raised holy hell about shutting down the government because of the budget impasse between the Republicans controlling congress and Clinton.
In retrospect, there *are* people who want spending to remain as high as possible; The beneficiaries of that spending. The administrators of those programs, the suppliers of FedGov contract work, and so forth.
Getting back to your point, Yes Obama is an ideologue, and I believe an incompetent one who does not actually possess an intellect capable of understanding the philosophical foundations of the positions he advocates, but the fact that he has gotten away with a lot does not constitute proof that he is intelligent or capable.
It just demonstrates that the nation has a serious problem with one party control of broadcast media.
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