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Clinton holds 11-point national lead over Trump: NBC/WSJ Poll ( 18.9% more dems sampled)
CNBC ^ | 10/16/2016 | Mark Murray

Posted on 10/16/2016 10:09:12 AM PDT by GilGil

Hillary Clinton is ahead of Donald Trump by double digits with just over three weeks until Election Day, according to a new national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted entirely after the second presidential debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; clinton; election; poll; polling; polls; trump
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To: GilGil

do you have a link to Attkinson’s statement??


21 posted on 10/16/2016 10:19:53 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: nhwingut

This week’s polls’ internals...
WaPo D+8
Fox D+9
NBC D+12
Reuters D+15

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I think I get it. They are assuming that the dems will be so enthusiastic that 18.9% more dems will show up. Wow!


22 posted on 10/16/2016 10:20:52 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: Dilbert San Diego

NBC has been historically biased against Trump. Even at his high water mark before the first debate when 538 gave Trump the lead, NBC still had him down 7.


23 posted on 10/16/2016 10:21:20 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Pence 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)
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To: GilGil

meant to make us not shocked by rigged results due to voter fraud and electronic “glitches” an and trunk loads of “found” ballots.....


24 posted on 10/16/2016 10:21:53 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( I miss Reagan !)
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To: GilGil; All

i didn’t see rat vs GOP...i did see two pages on questions about Trump controversies but did not see wikileaks mentioned once...

please correct me if I’m wrong...


25 posted on 10/16/2016 10:23:44 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: nhwingut

NBC has been historically biased against Trump. Even at his high water mark before the first debate when 538 gave Trump the lead, NBC still had him down 7.
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I’m thinking the enthusiasm will be 20% more repubs will vote for Trump.


26 posted on 10/16/2016 10:24:41 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

please explain (being serious- not trolling)...


27 posted on 10/16/2016 10:25:03 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: nhwingut

Don’t forget where John Harwood and Andrea Mitchell work - NBC and its wholly-owned offshoots. This “poll” is a deliberate manipulation to favor Clinton, another move by NBC to try and skew the election. Years ago I would have been surprised that the WS Journal put their name on such garbage; I no longer am surprise and I no longer READ the Wall Street Journal.


28 posted on 10/16/2016 10:25:35 AM PDT by laconic
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To: GilGil

So you are saying this is a Dem +19 of the whole?


29 posted on 10/16/2016 10:26:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: God luvs America

Just go to her twitter account and you will see them all there. She has about a dozen tweets on this now!

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/787698860454010880


30 posted on 10/16/2016 10:26:21 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil
Yep, must be the enthusiasm for Hillary where she barely draws 500 at her rallies ONCE PER WEEK while Trump draws 10,000 Twice PER DAY. She's also has Dems much more excited than for Obama in 2008 that only drew a D+7 turnout. 😂😂😂
31 posted on 10/16/2016 10:26:55 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Pence 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)
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To: ConservativeMind

So you are saying this is a Dem +19 of the whole?
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Yes! I think the poll assumes the same kind of enthusiasm as for Obama for Hillary.


32 posted on 10/16/2016 10:27:14 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: nhwingut

Trump draws over 50,000 per rally now when you include Facebook and Youtube and many times it is more like 75,000-100,000.

Something is way off now.


33 posted on 10/16/2016 10:29:05 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil
I know they don’t matter but it is important to understand how skewed they are.

It isn't just in the oversampling. It is the whole poll itself. They have a whole question ( q 18 ) on Trumps taxes. Not one question on Hilary's destruction of evidence. Another one - Hillary Clinton’s use of a private e-mail server during her time as Secretary of State- doesn't mention what was on the server or her destroying evidence that was under subpoena.The whole tone of the "survey" is anti-Trump.

34 posted on 10/16/2016 10:31:19 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: GilGil

thanks


35 posted on 10/16/2016 10:31:32 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

Thank you for introducing some statistical sanity into this thread.


36 posted on 10/16/2016 10:31:57 AM PDT by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: God luvs America

The sample, per the poll

Dems 44%
Repubs 37%
Ind 13%
Other 7%

It’s a D+7 poll.. not a D+18 poll, as is implied in the heading.. yeah, technically it is 18% more Dems but who has ever looked at it that way?

If it’s D+4, (say 38/34), do you want that shown as 4% more D than R or 11% more? Did Romney lose to Obama by 4 points or 8 points (4 percent divided by his total)


37 posted on 10/16/2016 10:33:00 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!l)
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To: NYC-RepublicanCT

What are you talking about? If you poll 18% more Dems than Repubs, in what world is that not 18%? I hold a graduate degree in computer science and make a living in data analytics so I’m curious why you believe this not to be true.


38 posted on 10/16/2016 10:33:04 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Pence 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)
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To: nhwingut

D+15??? Seriously? Lametastic.


39 posted on 10/16/2016 10:33:41 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: nhwingut

Look at post 27... 44D, 37R. It’s a D+7 poll


40 posted on 10/16/2016 10:35:08 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!l)
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