Clinton holds 11-point national lead over Trump: NBC/WSJ Poll ( 18.9% more dems sampled)

CNBC ^ | 10/16/2016 | Mark Murray

[GilGil]

Hillary Clinton is ahead of Donald Trump by double digits with just over three weeks until Election Day, according to a new national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted entirely after the second presidential debate.

[GilGil]

According to Sharyl Attkinsson this poll sampled 18.9% more dems than republicans. Last I hear dems and repubs were more like even. Does that mean than if this poll reflected reality that Trump would be u 9%?

Here is what Sharyl said in her latest tweets:

"Just for curiosity sake since most polls iview more Dems, wd be interesting to see results of poll that iviews 18% more Repub.

NBC/WSJ interviewed 440 who identify as Dems, 370 Repubs. So 70 (18.9%) more Dems. HC is ahead in this sample by 10 percentage pts."

How can they sample 18.9% more democrats and make this poll credible?

[GilGil]

Here are the internals of the poll.

http://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/16991NBCWSJMiddleOctoberPoll.pdf

[Dilbert San Diego]

What the heck??

Hillary up by double digits, in a poll conducted entirely after the 2nd debate?

After the 2nd debate in which even liberal media talking heads said that Trump performed very well, and arguably “won” the debate??? That debate?????

But Hillary is up by double digits nationally, but Trump is ahead or within single digits in many of the battleground states??

Can all of these statements be true???

[ETL]

Real Clear Politics has the national average of the polls at just over 5 pts.

[thoughtomator]

For reference, accurate party weighting is something like D+3.

I’m no longer bothered by such obviously biased polls. It will lull Clintonites into complacency while fooling no one else.

[TheCipher]

These “national polls” don’t matter. It is going to come down to the battleground states.

[stocksthatgoup]

Including 18.9% was brilliant

[GilGil]

Today the USC poll has Trump up close to 2 points!

[bigbob]

[ArcadeQuarters]

Designed to weigh down the average Trump numbers when combined with other, more accurate polls.

[thoughtomator]

Reweighting for oversampling of Democrats, this is a Trump +5 poll.

[GilGil]

These “national polls” don’t matter. It is going to come down to the battleground states.
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I know they don’t matter but it is important to understand how skewed they are. Where do they get 18.9% more dems? That does not at all reflect the last election.

[GilGil]

Reweighting for oversampling of Democrats, this is a Trump +5 poll.
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At the very least.

[tcrlaf]

Notice how the +Dem sample keeps increasing, to feed the narrative?

[NYC-RepublicanCT]

I wish folks would stop with this misleading 18% more crap... by that method, a D+5, where Dems=35%, Repub = 30%, that’s showing 17% more Dems than Repubs? Come on... there’s already plenty of misinformation out there

[jersey117]

Let them keep deluding themselves. They will be shocked and awed on election day.

[COBOL2Java]

Can all of these statements be true???

Yes, it's true. Here's a paper bag.

[Bob]

How can they sample 18.9% more democrats and make this poll credible?

They don't care in the least about making the poll credible -- Since it took oversampling democrats by that much to give hillary a double-digit lead, that's what they did. Credibilty be damned; get us the poll results we want.

[nhwingut]

This week’s polls’ internals...
WaPo D+8
Fox D+9
NBC D+12
Reuters D+15

[SamuraiScot]

Hillary up by double digits

So, they over-sampled Dems by 18 percent--but almost half of them aren't supporting their candidate, since the theoretical Clinton advantage is only 10 percent? Am I doing that math right?

In any case, the reason they're creating these Rubber Polls (thank you, Beatles) is to make room for the massive vote-fraud they're going to need. And to justify crying fraud themselves when Trump out-polls them anyway.