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Doctors See Inconsistencies In Hillary Clinton’s ‘Bacterial Pneumonia’ Diagnosis
Breitbart ^

Posted on 09/16/2016 5:01:43 AM PDT by detective

Drs. Elizabeth Lee Vliet and Jane Orient are finding inconsistencies in a letter written by Hillary Clinton’s doctor that claims the Democrat presidential nominee is recovering from “non-contagious bacterial pneumonia.”

Though neither Vliet nor Orient have personally examined Clinton, they’re giving Breitbart News some insights into a letter written by Dr. Lisa Bardack, the chair of Internal Medicine at CareMount Medical in Mount Kisco, New York, who said Clinton was being treated for “a mild non-contagious bacterial pneumonia” after becoming “overheated” during a 9/11 Memorial event when the nominee appeared to collapse and had to leave abruptly.

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“The mild pneumonia does not explain months of coughing, nor the reported confusion, strange head movements, episodes of apparent inattention, or sudden falls,” Orient also observes, emphasizing as well that Bardack’s letter “is not the ‘medical record.’”

The pneumonia story does not survive scrutiny from doctors.

1 posted on 09/16/2016 5:01:43 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

Of course it doesn’t survive scrutiny from doctors. Anyone with two eyes and any common sense at all, knows she is lying and trying to hide something much worse.


2 posted on 09/16/2016 5:03:33 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: detective

Group, This is Hillary Speak. Notice that she never says she has pneumonia? She only says she is being treated for pneumonia. These are not the same thing. She’s admitted to nothing. I


3 posted on 09/16/2016 5:08:47 AM PDT by Mustangman
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To: detective

Every document has fraud.

Angiogram with contrast used to measure calcium. Uh huh.

Saturation of 99% on room air. Uh huh.

No mention of her collapses, seizures, or injects. Uh huh.

And a pneumonia that is not transmissible to
a little girl, grabbed for the cameras. Uh huh.

Illary is nothing but a liar with
a political diagnosis as her ‘scarlet letter’.


4 posted on 09/16/2016 5:09:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: detective
It was "walking pneumonia"? When she was no longer walking on her own, logic says she should've been rushed to the ER and she should've been checked out by different doctors. Obviously, that original diagnosis was wrong.

That's just following a logical path from what we were told.

5 posted on 09/16/2016 5:14:18 AM PDT by grania (I'm Deplorable)
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To: simpson96

Hellen Keller would know she was lying.


6 posted on 09/16/2016 5:14:31 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: GOPJ; Grampa Dave; Jane Long; MinuteGal; stephenjohnbanker; Black Agnes; jsanders2001; V K Lee; ...
Hillary's pneumonia story does not survive scrutiny from doctors: “The mild pneumonia does not explain months of coughing, nor the reported confusion, strange head movements, episodes of apparent inattention, or sudden falls,” said one doctor, emphasizing as well that the letter from Hillary's doctor, Dr Bardack, 'is not the ‘medical record.’”

Apparently the Hillary team concocted the pneumonia story and had the story in the political bank, BEFORE Americans watched video of Hillary in a catatonic state, struggling to get into a van.

Now they're stuck w/ the story.

Thy also think we "deplorables" are too stupid to notice that as Hillary struggled to get into the van, none of her retinue seemed alarmed, no one called an ambulance, she wasnt brought to a hospital.......b/c they had seen Hillary like this before......possibly many times.

7 posted on 09/16/2016 5:17:15 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: detective

She’s got one foot on a banana peel....the other in a grave.


8 posted on 09/16/2016 5:25:49 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Mustangman

wait the 3d printer copy did not bring over a soul, wait , wait, that would be right then on shrillary presently


9 posted on 09/16/2016 5:34:47 AM PDT by aces ( Islam is the religion of the dead, Got Jesus?)
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To: Diogenesis

My take on this is the parsing of the words. Clinton has not had anything new in the past year. Whatever she has, it is over a year since been detected. Dr. is not going to explain a negative. Just making a flase statement and covering it up with the current story.


10 posted on 09/16/2016 5:40:40 AM PDT by DrDude (Does anyone have a set of balls anymore?)
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To: Mustangman

“Notice that she never says she has pneumonia? She only says she is being treated for pneumonia.”

Wow! Interesting.


11 posted on 09/16/2016 5:50:16 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Mustangman

Clintonian parsing. Admit to nothing.


12 posted on 09/16/2016 5:59:10 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: grania

‘It was “walking pneumonia”?’

It was Side of Beef Pneumonia.


13 posted on 09/16/2016 6:01:22 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: detective

First clue this is utter nonsense.

<><>non-contagious bacterial pneumonia<><>

Does not exist. No such thing. Horsefeathers.

Bacterial pneumonia is contagious, any semi qualified doctor should know that. Hell, I know it...and I don’t even play a doctor on TV...The forms of pneumonia that are non contagious are the types caused by chemicals.

Pneumonia caused by bacteria, viruses or fungus is always contagious. Non-contagious bacterial pneumonia is an outright lie.


14 posted on 09/16/2016 6:37:39 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (Never take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.)
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To: detective

I don’t think any of the doctors know what’s up. I’ve followed Jane Orient’s writings etc., for years and I trust her but I think this is all a guessing game.

My husband has been hospitalized three times in the past three years with severe COPD and there’s always one ER doctor who says, “pneumonia” and it’s entered in the record and another one says, “No, it’s not pneumonia” and his pulmonologist says, “It’s not pneumonia” and that goes in the record. He’s always been admitted and treated for 5-6 days with steroids and antibiotics.

It’s like throwing darts and seeing what sticks. He has never exhibited any signs of pneumonia but we can always count on some saying it is and others saying it isn’t. Our daughter (42 at the time) was very sick in 2013 with pneumonia and in ICU and there wasn’t any doubt that was pneumonia. I started a prayer thread here for her as her condition was so serious.

A nurse at the hospital gave me a pamphlet on how to recognize symptoms of pneumonia and none of them matched my husband’s but they certainly did match our daughter’s...The ER staff always says, “He’s having trouble breathing” - to which I respond - “Yeah! He has COPD!”

Good grief - Hillary is making a speech and just said, “My pneumonia finally got Republicans interested in women’s health.” Clap - Clap - Giggle - Giggle... We’re not interested in YOUR health, Hillary!!!


15 posted on 09/16/2016 6:46:56 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: detective

The big question here is; Does the defenses case hold water?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFdJza0AbeA


16 posted on 09/16/2016 7:02:16 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Liz

The media keeps repeating that she ‘almost collapsed’ getting into her van...

ALMOST??


17 posted on 09/16/2016 7:36:35 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: detective

I posted this on another thread, worth reading:\

I read Mish Medlocks blog this morning and he had a few doctors offering opinions, the best and most reasonable was from Dr. Zadeh, who ruled out Parkinson’s but did offer the following:

Comments From M.D. Zadeh

Hi Mish
It looks like you got two doctors commenting and now you will have a third. While I don’t disagree with the doctor’s opinions given what was presented, I think some of the facts presented to the public are in question.

Let me go over some basic things. When you have a blood clot in the brain, the biggest danger is that blood flow to that section of the brain is cut off and brain tissue dies; that is a stroke. If there is a blood clot causing symptoms and the clot gets dissolved or breaks away such that blood flow is not permanently interrupted, that is called a transient ischemic (without oxygen) attack or TIA or mini stroke.

However, there are also very small strokes that destroy brain tissue at the microscopic level. Those are called lacunar infarctions and they often result in a type of dementia called vascular dementia. Not to get too technical, but vascular dementia also is overlapped by a process called Lewy Body dementia which is basically a mixture of Alzheimer’s dementia and Parkinson’s.

I think people pointing to Parkinson’s don’t get what Lewy body and vascular dementia are: forms of dementia with Parkinsonian features that wax and wane depending on blood flow. If there is diminished blood flow to the dopamine producing parts of the brain: Parkinson symptoms can occur but vanish once blood flow is restored. Hilary wouldn’t have gotten through the election campaign with full blown Parkinson’s, but she could have gotten by with hiding early vascular/Lewy body dementia IMO, and that is what I suspect is going on with her.

The thing I have told people is once you have blood clots gumming up your brain, things don’t get better. This is a progressive problem and as someone who has extensively studied coagulation, the notion put out by HRC’s staff that you put someone on blood thinners, the clot dissolves because of the blood thinner, and a person has a full recovery is complete baloney. A disruption in blood flow to the brain is going to be followed by continued disruptions in blood flow, and I know of no treatment to stop it in a case like HRC’s that involves smaller blood vessels.

When you have a neurovascular issue causing dysphagia (difficulty swallowing which is what causes her to cough), seizures (the reason for the staff caring around the Valium or diazepam pen), and weakness, those are REALLY bad signs. IMO she is a ticking time bomb to have a major and debilitating stroke.

With Hiliary’s “pneumonia”, a doctor saying so is completely inadequate. How was it diagnosed? Was an acid fast stain done? Were mycoplasma titers or cultures performed? What was the level of cold agglutins? Furthermore, if HRC was diagnosed with mycoplasma or walking pneumonia, why was she allowed to come in contact with a child when this disease is known to be contagious? And what did her chest x-ray look like? She should have had one to be diagnosed with pneumonia.

Bear in mind that when you have weakness with pneumonia, it usually is due to dehydration and causes orthostasis (dizziness when getting up). If HRC were going from sitting to standing and needed support, I could buy the dehydration/pneumonia story. But she was already standing and then went limp. That is most likely a neurological problem not a hydration one.

People should be clamoring to see the chest x-ray and lab results for HRC. To me the most damning finding would be a normal white blood cell count, a negative acid fast stain, normal tiitre ratio of cold agglutins, and an infiltrate in the middle lobe of the right lung. That would be strongly suggestive that HRC has aspiration pneumonitis due to dysphagia from an underlying neurovascular issue and that the walking pneumonia diagnosis was pure bunk. But I would be shocked if we see the lab or X-ray results.

Bottom line though is I said HRC had serious medical issues to someone a month ago, and recent events have fortified that opinion. If the Dems handle HRC’s health issues as a conspiracy or a malicious Trump plot versus truthful full disclosure, IMO they are giving the election to Trump. For the Dems to win in November, they need to get a new candidate yesterday.

Joseph Zadeh

Here is the link for the rest of the comments: https://mishtalk.com/2016/09/14/late-stage-lying-pneumonia-theory-vs-parkinsons-disease-theory/


18 posted on 09/16/2016 7:40:45 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: detective

Bacterial pneumonia is a fairly common side effect of Parkinson’s Disease, due to impaired swallowing mechanisms, causing aspiration of food.


19 posted on 09/16/2016 7:54:33 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Thanks. That is the best analysis I've seen.

Does anyone know what the life expectancy is for someone with Late Stage Parkinsons?

20 posted on 09/16/2016 8:07:32 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (When satan's sister calls you "DEPLORABLE", you know you're on the right path!)
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