Posted on 09/14/2016 11:20:04 PM PDT by Darth Gill
JEFFERSON CITY — Missouri became the latest state to allow residents to carry a concealed weapon without a permit when lawmakers supported the change Wednesday.
Tense debate during the legislature's annual veto override session encompassed themes of race and class as lawmakers clashed over whether to override Gov. Jay Nixon's veto of Senate Bill 656. In the days leading up to the session the debate drew national attention, with organizations on both sides of the issues working to influence lawmakers.
Another controversial part of the bill is its "stand your ground" provision, which will allow residents to use deadly force on public property if they perceive a threat.
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That is where Ferguson is. lol Hands up don’t shoot
WAY T'GO, GUYS !
Jan 1! Great news.
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Congratulations to all Missourians (sorry, don’t know the nickname). This is really wonderful news.
SHOW ME STATE
Missouri lawmakers override gun AND voter ID vetoes
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-missouri-voterid-idUSKCN11K2YM
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[With events like Ferguson a part of Missouri’s recent history, lawmakers including Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, D-University City, Sen. Kiki Curls, D-Kansas City, and Rep. Brandon Ellington, D-Kansas City, addressed their concerns that this bill would make minorities less safe.]
Ah, OK, Democrats. So you don’t mind the majorities being victims. OK, got ya.
Showmees
Where the last civil war began its slow ferment.
Sincere question
Actually not. Here in AZ we've had constitutional carry since 2010. Things have been carnage free for the most part.
You'll note that we haven't made the news over police shooting unarmed people. Actually, in my memory it has happened - once in 5 years. The guy rushed the cop with something in his hand that turned out not to be a weapon. Don't attack the cops.
I especially don't understand the reaction of black lawmakers with regard to constitutional carry. In a state where any law abiding African American who is not a punk a$$ kid or a convicted felon may be legally carrying a weapon. a certain degree of mutual respect is engendered.
EFFECTIVE 01JAN2017 ...
The Lincoln-Douglas debates were about the status of the new state of Kansas, whether it should be free or slave. Douglas wanted a referendum. Since he won the election, a referendum there was, only Missourians crossed over and staked claims in Kansas so that they could vote for it to be a slave state, then went back home, abandoning their “claim”. The actual residents of Kansas objected strenuously to the “Missouri Claim Jumpers’,” manipulations, and the jumpers came back and wiped out the town of Lawrence. Frank and Jesse and their cousins the Younger brothers were among those who took part in the Massacre. The Missouri raiders were known as Bushwackers. There was an early Gunsmoke episode about the whole incident, I think in either Season 2 or 3. Anyway, that’s how Kansas became known as Bloody Kansas, and that’s where John Brown started out on his bloody rampage, to avenge the dead of Kansas and make slavery an unsafe venture for slave owners. Like-minded killers were known as Jayhawkers. It’s just ironic that now Missourians are among those beginning to break the mold again.
Reference bump - good summary!
I particularly like that they over-rode the governor’s veto to do so. Unfortunately, I currently live in Washington, which seems to be headed in the other direction.
The Kansas Nebraska Act was all about having Kansas and Nebraska actually vote as to whether they would be slave state or free. The history of the US was that southern states entering the union were slave and the northern were free. Kansas, next door to Missouri and in the same line of progression as Kentucky was assumed to be a slave state until the 1854 Kansas Nebraska Act instigated by Senator Douglas of Chicago who rammed the act through congress.
His motivation was his deep investment in railroad stocks. The westward expansion of the railroad into new territory would line his pockets. If Kansas and Nebraska were turned into states for legal settlement the railroad would expand. The rest is history. Kansas and Missouri fought the civil war starting in 1854. The western part of Missouri is known as "the burnt district" after general order 11 in August 1863 was precipitated by Quantrill's raid on Lawrence. General Order 11 removed every human being from the western counties bordering bleeding Kansas. Every house, barn and building was burned to the ground. The crops were destroyed, farm animals killed or removed. It was a wasteland till after the war. Never before and never since in US history has this scorched earth policy been used on US citizens. But it can and will happen again unless the citizens are armed. Thus the intense interest of Missourians in personal rights and freedoms. You have to present a birth certificate to get a drivers license in MO. :-)
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