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New Baltimore Aerial Surveillance Program Raises Trust Issues.
NBC News ^ | 8/28/2016 | Jon Schuppe

Posted on 08/28/2016 10:22:50 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

Small planes outfitted with video cameras have been flying over Baltimore since January, capturing activity on the streets below and relaying the footage to police to help them catch criminals.

The public knew nothing about it until this week — when Bloomberg Businessweek ran a cover story about the trial program.

Airplane used to conduct wide area surveillance. Persistent Surveillance Systems The revelations triggered outrage from elected officials, defense lawyers and the American Civil Liberties Union, who said the program raised privacy concerns and could aggravate public distrust in a city that exploded in riots last year after the death of a man in police custody.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: balance; baltimore; bigbrother; bluezones; crime; government; govspyingoncitizens; leo; maryland; police; spying; surveillance; urban
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1 posted on 08/28/2016 10:22:50 AM PDT by Carriage Hill
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To: carriage_hill
who said the program raised privacy concerns

With all the phone bugs, computer hacks, facial recognition, and ID checking (with the obvious omission of voting polls) Does anyone think "privacy" is not an extinct issue?

2 posted on 08/28/2016 10:36:53 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: immadashell

Sure got that right.


3 posted on 08/28/2016 11:03:50 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill; Jim Robinson

I’m sorry your post only got two comments. This is one of the biggest stories of the year. This article from Bloomberg let the cat out of the bag on a military project that has become commercial. This system can literally track you back in time on your movements within a city. One of the systems has zoom in as referenced in the article. I saw this system being researched for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan out of a hangar I worked in. I most certainly have a problem on this being used in our country. What gets me, The Air Force veteran released the code names of the project that he worked on and created a company that utilizes this technology after he left the Air Force. After being a defense contractor for many years I have to say there’s a whole lot of unanswered questions I have about this technology transfer (proprietary material) to his company as well as the original classification of the program.


4 posted on 08/28/2016 6:31:03 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: carriage_hill; OftheOhio; onyx; JustAmy; trisham; RedMDer; musicman; MEG33; deoetdoctrinae; ...

Ping. Another way for the government to use military technology to spy on us?


5 posted on 08/28/2016 6:39:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: carriage_hill

Sure sounds racist to me/s


6 posted on 08/28/2016 6:42:24 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: carriage_hill

7 posted on 08/28/2016 6:43:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Jim Robinson; OftheOhio

Most will skip right over this, but it’s huge. Between the known cameras, INTELSATs and this aerial program, SKYNET’s alive and doing well.


8 posted on 08/28/2016 6:58:01 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Jim Robinson; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; TWhiteBear; Salvation; ...

Another way for the government to use military technology to spy on us?

Check out article and comments.

Thanks, Mr. Robinson. Appreciate the ping.

9 posted on 08/28/2016 6:59:01 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: carriage_hill

Original article:

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-baltimore-secret-surveillance/

They address the tension between privacy and law enforcement.

As usual, legislation is far behind the technology.


10 posted on 08/28/2016 7:10:45 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: carriage_hill

I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind
And I don’t need to see any more
To know that I can read your mind, I can read your mind - A Parsons


11 posted on 08/28/2016 7:12:49 PM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL...the article says ‘only criminals need to be concerned about this’ program.


12 posted on 08/28/2016 7:14:19 PM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: carriage_hill

If a person is outside in public, in plain sight (no pun intended), there is no expectation of privacy.


13 posted on 08/28/2016 7:16:52 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree. That’s one of the bad repercussions of the BLM folks acting out. They give the government claims to justify.


14 posted on 08/28/2016 7:23:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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To: carriage_hill; null and void; Nachum; All

It’s all very creepy and 1984’ish.

Not sure if any of you recall when there was a huge Naval blimp that hovered over Interstate 95 in the the Baltimore area. The blimp was there on at least 2 different occassions for long periods of time.

Once in 2013:

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/09/27/eye-in-the-sky-navy-research-blimp-hovering-over-charm-city/

Then in 2015:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/10/have-you-seen-this-blimp/412897/

Then it broke loose and was found in Pennsylvania:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/harford/aberdeen-havre-de-grace/bs-md-jlens-blimp-loose-20151028-story.html

This new surveillance is different and concerning due to the secrecy tho.


15 posted on 08/28/2016 7:24:55 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: carriage_hill
Plan on everyone using Surveillance


16 posted on 08/28/2016 7:26:18 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: carriage_hill
Agent Orange~I Kill Spies
17 posted on 08/28/2016 7:36:24 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: PLMerite

Nobody likes the idea of their movements tracked and recorded. Plus, we have no idea if the technology can see inside your home or office. Yes - there are drones and cameras all over the place; not to mention people are constantly uploading videos. I think someone posted earlier on the thread that it was 1984’ish. The USA is not a military controlled country and using technology designed for use in war zones to ‘secretly’ monitor people in the U.S. seems to cross the line of inappropriate use. Some may say, ‘well if you’re not doing anything wrong, what does it matter?’ It does matter. This may be expected in North Korea (if they could afford this technology), but this is not NK.


18 posted on 08/28/2016 7:40:58 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: OftheOhio

“This is one of the biggest stories of the year. This article from Bloomberg let the cat out of the bag on a military project that has become commercial.”

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Quite correct.

All entirely consistent with Deep State objectives. The same Deep State that killed a president also created one...Barry Sotero said he wanted to create “civilian national security force” and more recently, federalize civilian police forces. There already is a de facto federalization of many police forces due to the corrupt and lawless DOJ enacting “consent decrees.” The military and civilian law enforcement are nearly one.

A literal weapon of war as you mentioned, deployed against the citizens of an entire city. They chose crime plagued Baltimore for a Beta because that gave them plausible “law enforcement” deniability. They plan to use it everywhere.

And just as intel gathered from the military systems was used to eliminate “HVTs,” the same will be done here - by the same people.”


19 posted on 08/28/2016 7:48:29 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Mr. M.J.B.; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...

20 posted on 08/28/2016 7:59:11 PM PDT by null and void (Has there ever been a death associated with the Clintons that *wasn't* beneficial to them?)
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