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Not in My Name, NeverTrumpers
American Thinker ^ | August 10, 2016 | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 08/10/2016 12:09:16 PM PDT by Kaslin

Many of my close friends in the conservative movement are NeverTrumpers. As a result, I find myself in an awkward position. The NeverTrumpers are appealing to their conservative friends based on emotional claims that I recognize as false, deluded, and selfish. One friend said, "Who wins the election does not matter as much as the need to vote one's conscience." This statement is stunningly prideful and childish. The voting booth is not a ride at Six Flags, and elections are not part of a consumer experiences. The White House is not Burger King, where you get things your way.

Of course who wins the election is more important than your precious conscience or how you feel about voting. Your country matters more than you do. Has America become so weak and self-absorbed that people no longer understand what it means to say, "It's not all about you, honey"?

I guess that's why I could never be a libertarian.

Part of the impasse between me and NeverTrumper friends is that they have never actually sat down and listened to the full horrors that I endured firsthand, which make it undeniable to me that this election is about stopping Hillary Clinton and saving America. Some games are won by offense, and others are won by defense; elections follow that pattern. We have to vote against things sometimes.

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To: 60Gunner

Medved is a propagandist for the Cheap Labor Express.
He has been trying to convince his listeners for years that we can’t secure the border or enforce the laws and we have no choice but amnesty. Just like all the politicians he supports.
In every election since the last amnesty the GOP has nominated an amnesty candidate.
They got Trumped this time and they don’t like it.
There has been a bipartisan policy of non-enforcement of our borders and immigration laws.
The illegal alien inundation was INTENTIONAL.
The powers that be do not intend to allow the citizens to keep the rule of law or their country.
They are not about to let us elect Trump and reverse 30 years of flooding the country with fraudulently documented foreigners.


61 posted on 08/10/2016 1:24:10 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: GunRunner

Yeb! was supposed to be The Designated Loser, just like McAmnesty and Romneycare before him.
They both took a dive, McCain went as far as endorsing his opponent.
The GOP has offered us only amnesty candidates since the last amnesty and that is not an accident.
Trump was the only candidate of the 17 who was not owned by The Cheap Labor Express.
NeverTrump is really about never-ending illegal alien inundation.
They do not intend to allow the citizens to keep the rule of law or their country.
There has been a bipartisan policy of non-enforcement for 30 years and they do not want it stopped.


62 posted on 08/10/2016 1:33:46 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: GunRunner
"The Republican Party gave us the least electable..."

Oh, you and your GOPe party line 'electable' bullshittery again. Maybe you don't see the great peril into which this country has been led by your precious GOPe 'electabilty' colleagues. Well, enough Americans finally do see it, and we are not going to allow you quislings to take us any further.

Your stance reveals a critical lack of understanding regarding how Americans are grappling with this election. We do, in fact, see this as something bigger than ourselves, or even our partisan divisions.

In contrast, you and your electability idiot friends can only see what's good for prosperity of the establishment party. So tell me again: who are the selfish ones in this equation? (And oh yeah, by the way: an integral part of that 'something bigger than ourselves' is the complete destruction of the 'electability' establishment wing of the GOP. so far, so good).

So in conclusion, you are now invited to stuff your party-serving, egocentric 'electability' crap and get the hell out of our way. Your quisling party line BS doesn't work anymore, and we're coming through.

And say hello to George Will, Michael Medved, and Mark Levin, and all the other crybabies for us. You will find that along with them, there's plenty of room for your 'electability' wing on the ash heap of history.

As far as Trump's 'electability' is concerned. it all depends on who you ask: your old think tank buddies in the party or the media, or an American.

63 posted on 08/10/2016 1:37:29 PM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: GunRunner; MeshugeMikey
You sure sound a lot like MeshugeMikey...
He got banned too....
Bye
64 posted on 08/10/2016 1:43:39 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Maceman

“NeverTrumpers are full of excrement. All of them. If they voted for McCain and/or Romney, they are utterly without integrity.”

Oh, thank you!

I am amazed at all the self-righteous posturing by Mark Levin and the rest of the Punditry Class: I never heard a fraction of this kind of vicious, ruthless rhetoric against Dole, Bush, McCain, or Romney - all RINOs, all faux conservatives, all pathetic failures (notwithstanding that Bush eked out election wins: his tenure promoted costly warfare abroad, and national insecurity at home).

They are done with Trump?

I am done with them!


65 posted on 08/10/2016 4:56:32 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: GunRunner; Grampa Dave; mkjessup

And another one bites the dust!


66 posted on 08/10/2016 5:27:36 PM PDT by Luircin (Stomp Hillary, build wall, stop Islam. Any of the above are good reasons to vote. Trump 2016)
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To: Luircin

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67 posted on 08/10/2016 7:11:21 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((My passion for freedom is stronger than that of the Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.))
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To: Grampa Dave

TBP is still here...


68 posted on 08/10/2016 7:14:28 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Kaslin

Up against the wall, NeverTrumpers!


69 posted on 08/10/2016 7:16:18 PM PDT by Rastus (#NeverHillary #AlwaysTrump)
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To: GunRunner
Well, bye.

Retarded #NeverTrumpers/#AlwaysHillarys like yourself don't seem to understand that if Hillary is elected, we'll have a country run by six people:

5 Lefty Supreme Court justices, and a lawless Chief Law Enforcement officer.

It's on YOU, and your cryptoDemocrat ilk.

70 posted on 08/10/2016 7:21:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (Hillary Clinton is not sophisticated enough to understand the Bill of Rights, either.)
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To: sargon

Thanks


71 posted on 08/10/2016 7:35:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((My passion for freedom is stronger than that of the Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.))
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To: GunRunner

“Didn’t prefer Jeb but had an infinitely better chance than Trump.
You wanted an unhinged game show host with no filter, and you got one. Now you’ll pay the price (er, we all will).”

Thanks for admitting that you’re an open borders, globalist, cowardly, neo-con cuck. You Nevertrump cultists are cowardly, ignorant, unprincipled and traitorous.

We held our noses and voted for YOUR liberal candidates such as Bushie, Muslim Brotherhood terrorist McCain and, the king of all cucks, Mittens (dog abuser) Romney. But, you liberal cultists are too “pure” to hold your noses for just one time.

Of course you like Yeb because he bows down and is “nice” to the left, worships illegals, free trade and loves stupid, mideast wars. Just like you, right?

You are on the wrong forum. FR is for conservatives only. Not globalist, open border trash like yourself.


72 posted on 08/11/2016 1:43:35 AM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Proud Islamophobe.)
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To: Kaslin; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ..

Good article.

PING!


73 posted on 08/11/2016 2:45:15 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cuckservative: a "conservative" willing to raise another country's ideology in his own country)
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To: Kaslin

Well.... what about crying babies??


74 posted on 08/11/2016 4:10:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Well.... what about crying babies??



I'm make sure that less of them get born!

75 posted on 08/11/2016 4:14:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

“One friend said, “Who wins the election does not matter as much as the need to vote one’s conscience.” This statement is stunningly prideful and childish. The voting booth is not a ride at Six Flags, and elections are not part of a consumer experiences.”

Yeah, well that statement is coming from the likes of Little Ben Shapiro, Elisha Krauss and Meghan McCain- 30 yr old “conservative commentators” with all of the maturity and wisdom possessed by precocious teenagers.


76 posted on 08/11/2016 7:14:07 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: xzins

“There might be an honest nevertrumper out there somewhere, but most are just concerned with keeping their beds feathered”

The older ones, the GOPe support crowd, are certainly doing it to keep their money pouring in. They have been selling out the country for years as it is and this is just one more chapter in doing the bidding of big donors.

The younger ones are a bunch of preening, self important children who litter what is laughably called the “conservative media” and what is in effect the Hillary Youth movement.


77 posted on 08/11/2016 7:25:20 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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