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Christmas bomber case appeal challenges NSA surveillance
Washington Post ^ | 07/06/2016 | Kristena Hansen | AP

Posted on 07/06/2016 7:39:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Mohamud is appealing his 2013 conviction on grounds that he was entrapped by undercover federal agents posing as al-Qaida members and the warrantless surveillance of his foreign communications violated his constitutional rights.

It marks the first time a federal appeals court is considering whether the National Security Agency’s foreign surveillance programs — the same ones that came under scrutiny after the Edward Snowden leaks a few years ago — violate the Fourth Amendment rights of criminal defendants.

Stephen Sady, Mohamud’s public defender, and another attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union urged the court for a new trial on grounds that the evidence used against Mohamud should’ve never been allowed in the courtroom.

Sady told the judges that using surveillance information on foreigners, which doesn’t require a warrant, to spy on any Americans they communicate with is “an incredible diminution of the privacy rights of all Americans ... That is a step that should never be taken.”

U.S. prosecutors defended the program, saying it’s perfectly legal under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to access information on Americans that was obtained through foreign communications.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: US: Oregon; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2013; 201607; 4hamendment; 4thamendment; 4thmendment; aclu; bomber; christmas; christmasbomber; edwardsnowden; entrapment; fisa; foreignsurveillance; mohamud; nsa; portland; stephensady; waronthensa

1 posted on 07/06/2016 7:39:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

During WWII ALL US MAIL was Opened and Read by the Government


2 posted on 07/06/2016 7:42:26 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: BenLurkin
I was living in Oregon when this occurred.

It was amazing and troubling at the same time how all the Portland liberals were wringing their hands, so worried that the poor muslim (who wanted to kill them), was being unfairly entrapped.

Just reinforces my opinion that liberals are too stupid to live.

3 posted on 07/06/2016 7:49:27 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: PROCON

“Just reinforces my opinion that liberals are too stupid to live.”

I have no problem with this in general but the stupid bastards will take us with them with their insanity.


4 posted on 07/06/2016 7:53:04 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: PROCON

Where are all of the “Stop Jihad Now!” yard signs?


5 posted on 07/06/2016 7:58:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: Paladin2
The citizens of Portlandia smugly and proudly displays these signs instead.


6 posted on 07/06/2016 8:11:09 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: headstamp 2
While I think this guy is a POS, I do think it was entrapment. He tried to dial 1-800-can I get a terrorist to help me. He got the FBI instead pretending to be terrorist. They took him out and blew stuff up (FBI’s explosives). They help put the bomb together using FBI fake explosives. They handed him an FBI phone and said dial this number. He did and the fake bomb did what it was supposed to do.......nothing. Then he was charged with trying to detonate a WMD.

If that is not entrapment, what is? Like I said, the guy is a POS and I am sure he wanted to do something, just not sure he could have gotten as far as he did without the FBI.

Seems like a charge of trying to join a terrorist organization would be the correct charge.

7 posted on 07/06/2016 8:11:30 PM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: PROCON

That should make things a lot easier for the criminals.

Brilliant!


8 posted on 07/06/2016 8:15:40 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: MPJackal
If that is not entrapment, what is?

Umm, how about the "alleged" terrorist just says NO?!

Who the F*** side are you on anyway?

Entrapment my ass.

9 posted on 07/06/2016 8:21:52 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: BenLurkin

We all know that this case is going to be hastily rushed through and Mohamud will get a huge government settlement courtesy of this current Regime.


11 posted on 07/06/2016 8:54:50 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: PROCON; MPJackal
MPJackal: They help put the bomb together using FBI fake explosives. They handed him an FBI phone and said dial this number. He did and the fake bomb did what it was supposed to do.......nothing. Then he was charged with trying to detonate a WMD. If that is not entrapment, what is?

PROCON: Umm, how about the "alleged" terrorist just says NO?! Entrapment my ass.

Except the FBI and ATF have been known to infiltrate militias and similar groups and push them into illegal behavior*, like overthrowing government officials or the like. — In this case they're not just egging the guy on, they're actively helping and assisting him. If it isn't entrapment then it is conspiracy, and the agents are party to it and should be prosecuted on "conspiracy to 'detonate a WMD'".

Your special exceptions for government agents being above the law are precisely why Hillary was not indicted.

12 posted on 07/06/2016 9:09:50 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: SaveFerris
Am I the only one thinking that we could use this to bait the pond, so to speak?
13 posted on 07/06/2016 9:12:13 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: PROCON

Funny....


14 posted on 07/06/2016 11:45:38 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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