Posted on 07/05/2016 11:34:58 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
one small Advantage would be the plants could aid in the CO2 scrubbing process.
in fact plot plants love high CO2 levels.
Potheads actually purchase CO2 generators for their grow cabinets.
Just freeze dry the veggies.
We grew radishes
If I had a company and this was a food stuffs-to-employee problem, I’d first have my research team determine whatever vegetable exists that contains the most of vitamins, nutrients, and other benefits needed for a human. I’d then concentrate on research for that one vegetable as efficiently and appropriately possible.
I don’t know what the ‘one’ vegetable (maybe two) would be, but that’s where I’d start.
>>Smacks of more pc wussification of the military. Subs aren’t supposed to be submersible salad bars.
You hit the nail on the head. I served in submarines. There isn’t any free space. Now the little bit of extra space goes for female berthing. The power requirements are carefully calculated and you need every KW for answering Ahead Flank. The water requirements are also closely calculated and you need every drop produced for reactor makeup water and to make steam and the rest goes to allowing the crew water to drink and wash with.
Submarine life is hardship. We accept that when we volunteer. And it’s worth it. I hate the wussified nation we’ve become.
For one deployment, our Supply Officer sealed the lettuce in individually plastic bags filled with nitrogen. Worked great! Fresh lettuce for almost two months!
I think it is a silly idea. Unless you have long term plans to send people to sea for longer than they can stand without a port visit, it makes absolutely no sense at all to me.
This is a nuclear submarine, not a commune (yet). They are performing a job, a highly technical one, and there is a logistical chain in place to supply food that is of good quality and well established.
Unless this is an extremely automated process that requires no human intervention, this seems like a misuse of space and resources.
I am not against farming, hydroponics, or anything like that. But to put this on a submarine smacks of social engineering, has nothing to do with the military.
If we are in such extremis that a submarine cannot put into port for supplies, fresh vegetables are going to be the least of anyone’s worries.
Exactly.
As a former submarine officer I will contribute to this. Aside from the obvious lack of space on a nuclear submarine, the crew has enough things to do, than tend to a garden.
rather than such an ambitious program, I would suggest starting with sprouts.
Sprouts can be easily grown with damp cloths and very little space. Growing sprouts would be good woman’e work
They’ll use all that space currently wasted for torpedoes and missiles!
I’d have to say yes based on what I grew on some damp laundry one time on a house boat.
Seems it would be more effective to develop underwater drones for resupply. The sub could rendezvous with the drone and stock up on veggies.
There are probably security implications (an enemy following the drone, for example), but they could be less than showing up at a port in a major city.
Exactly. If some can explain the utility of using a highly trained specialist as a farmer when that food can be provided by a working party loading boxes of food from a conveyor belt with far less time and effort, and far better yield, I am all ears.
I want a TM3 to spend his time learning and implementing everything he can about torpedoes, damage control, etc., not engaging in farming, sensitivity training, or anything else.
This is insane.
They are warriors, not farmers. Treat them as such.
As an aside, I worked at electric boat from 2010-2015. We were in the beginning stages of the design of the OHIO Class replacement project. While they were throwing around new ideas on what sort of features would be researched, one high level idiot was promoting getting rid of the galley and just serving MREs. We must have wasted a couple thousand man hours arguing about that.
As a former submarine officer, I agree.
Since Physics tells us that the larger the sub, the more easily detected it is, super-large subs are super-vulnerable.
Still, I guess it’s nice to know that some of the “geniuses” at the Pentagon saw “The Martian”.
The lights would be somewhat of a power drain. They’d have to find a way to desalinate seawater as well. It would be a great health benefit for the sailors.
As I understand it a Nuclear Sub generates enough power to light a small city - so power is not a problem
They also already desalinate seawater - that is not a problem
Space to grow enough to make it worth while, now that is a problem
I believe that the Commander In Chief of the Armed Services has the brain of a vegetable...
They apparently have watched it. I never heard of the movie, so I wikipediaed it. It has Matt Damon in it. I feel that guy is in 3-4 movies a year. Doesn’t hollywood have anyone else?
Or, if the pot growers are cheap, they just mix dry ice with water to produce CO2.
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