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Have we misunderstood the Declaration of Independence? Princeton professor claims
Daily Mail ^ | 7/4/16 | James Wilkinson

Posted on 07/04/2016 10:27:49 PM PDT by Nachum

Has America spent the last few hundred years misunderstanding the Declaration of Independence? That's what Danielle Allen, a professor at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, NJ, believes.

According to Allen, the paragraph beginning 'We hold these truths to be self-evident' has been misinterpreted thanks to a rogue period that was not in the original document.

And that could completely transform our understanding of how the Founding Fathers viewed the role of government, The New York Times reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; academia; academialist; america; danielleallen; declarationdenier; election2016; foundingfathers; government; independence; institute; newjersey; newyork; newyorktimes; nj; princeton; professor; trump
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To: Impy

Would you at least go read the article before responding?

You come across so ignorant with these type of responses. The writer is a female btw.


21 posted on 07/05/2016 12:43:44 AM PDT by visionary
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To: Arlis

What about lines?

Capped for emphasis or for noun? And why emphasize “that”?


22 posted on 07/05/2016 1:09:55 AM PDT by amihow (l8)
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To: Nachum

Goofy interpretation that totally ignores the structure of the wording. No, Government is not an inalienable right and the actual declaration that government is instituted to secure these (aforementioned) rights clearly can’t be taken to mean that government is instituted to secure the right of govrnment.

Kind of circular if you follow Danielle’s thinking.


23 posted on 07/05/2016 2:37:36 AM PDT by plangent
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To: Beowulf9

” ‘the New York Times reported...” is all I needed to know that the following text is taurine excrement.


24 posted on 07/05/2016 3:04:13 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Nachum

Holy cow she is right, we WERE intended to be a communist dictatorship! Quick, everybody send 90% of everything we own to DC. /s


25 posted on 07/05/2016 3:15:32 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Nachum

Utterly meaningless twaddle. The Declaration of Independence established no laws. It was and is the inspirational document of American history but it is the US Constitution that is the framework document.


26 posted on 07/05/2016 3:20:48 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Nachum
This is what happens when you do not teach logic or English grammar. "That to secure these rights" is not a continuation of a list but a subordinate purpose clause: the institution of governments is only for the purpose of securing the unalienable rights endowed by the Creator. The rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness come from God; governments are instituted by Man to secure these rights. This subordination of purpose is the same with or without a period.
27 posted on 07/05/2016 3:49:51 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Nachum

There is a period in the so-called original. It is above the dash, but it is a period. The so-called later copies probably just put the period where it belongs.


28 posted on 07/05/2016 4:22:25 AM PDT by djpg
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To: Nachum

Her thesis really changes nothing, is hair splitting, and no one has ever claimed that Jefferson was against any form of government — he ran for president, after all. He plainly said that government was instituted, (or required) to protect God-given rights.

This woman makes out that the entire sense of a document of that length depends merely on the placement of a period, and that she has seen what millions of people have failed to see.

She will appear on TV shows, and in a relaxed, easy manner, as that tact has become universal with liberals, expose her genius to the world. Matt Lauer will swoon over her.


29 posted on 07/05/2016 4:29:09 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Nachum

Indeed - what about all of the federalist and anti-federalist papers, all of the well known writings of the founders?

The intent is quite clear to anyone who cares to be presented with the truth.


30 posted on 07/05/2016 4:45:20 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: Nachum

...depends on what your interpretation of “is”...is?


31 posted on 07/05/2016 4:50:12 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Nachum

Another rabid nut professor.

Yawn.


32 posted on 07/05/2016 4:51:07 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Nachum

I have no trust in the scholarship of a black woman with lice cut hair


33 posted on 07/05/2016 4:52:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: Post5203

An affirmative action appointee.


34 posted on 07/05/2016 5:02:13 AM PDT by sport
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To: Nachum

Actions speak louder than words. They went on to create a limited government.


35 posted on 07/05/2016 5:15:30 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Nachum

I hate liberals.


36 posted on 07/05/2016 5:35:46 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: Nachum

In this case it matters not as the Declaration of Independence is not a document recognized as a forming document of our government, as it came prior to the Constitution, which is the enabling document. This is a well known and accepted principle.


37 posted on 07/05/2016 5:51:34 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimud Buarch)
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To: Nachum

***Princeton professor claims rogue period in official transcript DOESN´T appear on original***

Several copies of the Declaration were made and sent to various kings around the world. Ever so often one of these shows up.


38 posted on 07/05/2016 6:41:41 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Petrosius

” the institution of governments is only for the purpose of securing the unalienable rights endowed by the Creator”

BINGO!

Governments “deriv[e] their just powers from the consent of the governed” toward the end of securing “the unalienable rights endowed by the Creator” - and any government which fails to secure those rights for the people is illegitimate.

Thus, “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government”.

Period, comma or simply a dash, the meaning is unchanged. A legitimate government exists by the consent of the governed, and serves a legitimate purpose only so long as it makes it possible for the people to exercise and enjoy “the unalienable rights endowed by the Creator”.


39 posted on 07/05/2016 6:52:41 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: Nachum

The “T” in the following word ‘That’ is capitalized. Thus, the period was there when the document was written...or it was implied that ‘Happiness’ was the last word in the previous sentence. There has been no misinterpretation.


40 posted on 07/05/2016 8:16:22 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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