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Why not just strip away all rights of those on watch lists?
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | July 3, 2016

Posted on 07/03/2016 4:19:58 AM PDT by UpStateNY

I’ve heard a lot lately about restricting those on the “terror watch list” or “no-fly list” from purchasing a firearm. I get the appeal, because no logical person wants to enable a bad person to do bad things. But if we’re going to restrict the Second Amendment for these people without due process, why stop at just one amendment if it means saving lives? Should people on a terror watch list be allowed to attend a suspected radicalized house of worship? Why allow them to congregate at all? Why is a person suspected of planning terror allowed to have a Facebook or Twitter account to spew hate and network with other terrorists? If the pen is mightier than the sword, shouldn’t we go after Tweets instead of guns? “Like” or “share” if you agree. We should also allow the FBI to have unfettered access to their emails and tap their phones so we can ensure they aren’t planning the next massacre. Being on this secret list is reason enough; it shouldn’t require the lengthy process of obtaining a warrant from an obtuse judge. I say quarter a cop in their homes for extra security. And wouldn’t it be prudent to simply detain them until it’s determined whether or not they’re a legitimate threat? Our public safety demands suspension of habeas corpus for these blacklisted individuals. And since terror networks are often flush with cash, we can’t risk setting a low bail while they wait for their military tribunal. With the November elections approaching, why are people on these lists allowed to vote? If you can’t get on an airplane, you shouldn’t be voting for our next president. I know the shooters of Fort Hood, Chattanooga, Charleston, San Bernardino and Orlando weren’t on the terror watch list, but I would sleep...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2016election; banglist; billofrights; election2016; newyork; noflylist; rkba; rop; satire; secondamendment; trump; watchlist
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1 posted on 07/03/2016 4:19:58 AM PDT by UpStateNY
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To: UpStateNY

Bump.

And why are Democrats like McAuliffe pushing to restore rights to proven dangers to society (felons)?


2 posted on 07/03/2016 4:21:56 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: UpStateNY

If you are on the list what the hell are you doing living next door?


3 posted on 07/03/2016 4:23:45 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: UpStateNY

If they can be stripped away, they are no longer rights.


4 posted on 07/03/2016 4:26:30 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

“And why are Democrats like McAuliffe pushing to restore rights to proven dangers to society (felons)?”

Because when elections in some districts are decided by a few dozen votes he just got an extra 260,000 votes.


5 posted on 07/03/2016 4:28:11 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (`)
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To: UpStateNY

Obviously this writer does not appreciate the rights of Americans. Allow rights to be taken from a small class and soon the government will withdraw them from everyone. Big government, aka “Big Brother”, is never the answer!


6 posted on 07/03/2016 4:30:09 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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To: tet68

No, they never were really rights, just a convenience to the .gov to let you think you had rights. When it becomes inconvenient...POOF...goodbye
“Rights”


7 posted on 07/03/2016 4:31:21 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Boomer One

Put on your sarcasm detector hat and read it again.


8 posted on 07/03/2016 4:32:36 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: UpStateNY

Ooooh. If a person exploited this they could have an entire clothing line with a nice emblem marking these people as nonpeople instead of some silly sewn on patch!/s


9 posted on 07/03/2016 4:36:05 AM PDT by disndat
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To: Boomer One

Writer is making a rhetorical argument.

Consult logicallyfallacious.com


10 posted on 07/03/2016 4:47:19 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( It Can't Happen Here -- Sinclair Lewis.)
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To: UpStateNY

Excellent point!


11 posted on 07/03/2016 4:50:11 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Boomer One

Thank you. You just made the whole point of the argument.


12 posted on 07/03/2016 5:00:57 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: UpStateNY

Why bother with watch lists why not just have the secret police come drag us away to the memory hole.


13 posted on 07/03/2016 5:08:30 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.)
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14 posted on 07/03/2016 5:14:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Boomer One
I suspect they do appreciate the rights of Americans, and that their article is intended to point out that restricting 2nd Amendment rights is really no different than restricting any or all of a citizen's rights.

The writer, and the illustrator leave plenty of clues that his letter is actually against the removal of any rights without due cause. But he didn't feel the need for a /sarc tag given the picture showing the constitution with everything covered in black marker.

15 posted on 07/03/2016 5:17:44 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Boomer One

Allow rights to be taken from a small class and soon the government will withdraw them from everyone.


Is anyone fool enough to believe that we still have rights? Minorities have rights. Criminals have rights. Illegals have rights............American law abiding citizens do not!


16 posted on 07/03/2016 5:29:22 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: sauropod

Read


17 posted on 07/03/2016 5:31:06 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: UpStateNY
Most of do not remember but know of when the USA put a whole race of people in prisons. That would be the Japanese. Many POWs were brought to they USA and ended up working farms and such until the end of the war. These people did not have a religious mandate, jihad, to kill us though. Muslims have been at war against this country whether the Barbary pirates, selling black slaves, 911 and now local terror attacks. Obama takes the obvious solutions off of the table.
18 posted on 07/03/2016 5:53:22 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: DH

No, we always have rights no matter who refuses to recognize them. It’s always been up to us to assert them.


19 posted on 07/03/2016 5:55:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: UpStateNY

The author doesn’t get there in the excerpt, but the trip down the road of secret no-fly lists ends at the concentration camp. If individuals are so dangerous they have to be proscribed from public transport, etc. — why should they be “allowed” to remain loose?

(That is an observation, not advocacy.)


20 posted on 07/03/2016 6:05:37 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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