Posted on 05/23/2016 10:19:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
More evidence is arising to show that the pilot of Flight 804 went suicide. People ask: if indeed the pilot went suicide ‘Muslim Kamikaze style’, why plunge the aircraft loaded with mostly Muslim passengers into the sea and how does that make any sense from an Islamic perspective on Jihadi martyrdom?
Answer: everything.
Shakeer’s [Flight 804's pilot] link to Amr Khaled, just like Shah’s link with Anwar Ibrahim should raise some serious alarm bells. Both Ibrahim and Khaled are linked to their love to the Muslim spiritual leader, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi.
Anyone can click to see the man is a Muslim Brotherhood operative. He openly aided and abetted terrorists. Both Shah and Shakeer are Islamists. A suicide act is not considered terrorism by the West. But they better start adjusting their policies. Although Shah’s drowning and most likely Shakeer’s was intentional, many will object, “suicide” they say is forbidden in Islam.
But this is incorrect when you add in the theology of an Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.
This is one discussion amongst Islamists which the West are ignorant about. Westerners need to remember, Islam, its students, its fascination, its goals, everything about the religion is linked to stories in the past. A Muslim is an elephant who never forgets the past history. When I was Muslim, the story is known of the suicide of 700 Muslims on a ship which they deliberately sank and committed mass suicide.
Why suicide? Instead of surrendering the ship to Richard The Lionheart, they chose to poke holes in it and drown with it. They were considered “martyrs”. All one has to do is read the works of the famed terrorist, Anwar Al-Awlaki’. Al-Awlaki was finally killed by an American drone. He tells the story:
(Excerpt) Read more at freedomoutpost.com ...
He definitely knows a great deal about islam though some of his theories sound a bit conspiratorial.
That said, lot's of interesting info here.
I just had a crazy thought...
I wonder if the original plan was to ram a USA warship in the Med and something went wrong.
It would be really tough to do but imagine the coverage if they pulled it off.
How does this match with the alarm log that there was a fire on board?
If the theory is that the pilot set the fire below decks, how was he so sure that it would doom the plane?
Uh, that would be an Islamic thought, not a crazy thought.
It would be interesting to map where our aircraft carriers in the Med were located 2-3 days surrounding the crash.
Of course that wouldn’t be public knowledge.
Good question.
I’m still leaning towards the thinking that a bomb was placed. I’m not convinced that it was pilots though. Not saying it wasn’t. Just not convinced it was.
One issue that is never addressed is :
Why is it that supposedly Moderate Muslims turn radical..
It seems like they just flip a switch, and change overnight
Does that mean that all those already here could 'flip' just as easily ?
ANSWER : Yes! And create a series of terrorist attacks 'ad infinitum'!
Islam (Submission) is diametrically opposed to Democracy and Freedom.
Hmmm. Interesting idea.
Dropping a flare into the toilet in the operations deck would burn through the controls and render the plane uncontrollable. It would crash. The crew has access to flares.
A few years ago, EgyptAir had a Boeing 777 that suffered an electrical fire in the cockpit on the ground. The plane was a total loss.
Link to pictures of EgyptAir Boeing 777 that burned on the ground in Cairo due to cockpit electrical fire:
Also venting a small bottle of oxygen in a suitcase, then igniting would also burn through the decks, but these are less reliable methods.
Unless he wanted it to look like equipment failure, and not suicide.
Again, there are no moderate moslems and damn few self made apostates.
I do not currently permit my wife to go to a moslem doctor. She is type 1 diabetic and retires from teaching this year and goes on Medicare which means there are only moslem doctors available. That means we have to accept the potential "martyr" as her doctor of figure out how to get what she needs offshore. If Medicare won't cover the insulin, and with Medicare we will have to pay $600 a month for it instead of the uninsured $4000, she will have to take her chances with a potential and probably eventual "martyr." I am not happy.
Why is it that supposedly Moderate Muslims turn radical..
It seems like they just flip a switch, and change overnight
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Saw this posted today - Egypt Air 990 that went down in October 1999. It was determined that the plane went down “as a result of the relief first officer’s flight control inputs”...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cugrkYEYIl0
Interesting in that the Egyptian government was not happy & in fact was very sensitive about the FBI investigating the background of the relief first officer & cultural differences were also an issue. Many evidently thought that Egyptians did not commit suicide due to their culture, but that’s obviously not true. Also, it didn’t take “radicalization” for the relief first officer to decide that suicide was the way out - he apparently did it due to personal problems & for revenge against the person preventing him from flying after this flight (who was on the same plane).
The problems in investigating flight 990 will also probably still be there in the 804 investigation - it looks like Egyptian authorities are already doing what they can to turn the cause towards mechanical failure ... their tourism industry will be hit hard (it’s already suffering) if people are afraid to fly there because a pilot or terrorist took the plane into the sea.
Walid Shoebat also made another statement in a previous post on this subject:
TS NOT SAFE TO FLY ANYMORE
As we stated yesterday. It is simply not safe to fly anymore. Who could vet all these? I flew nearly 3000 flights for years and I decided to suspend flying altogether after years of experience. Smuggling a soda pop as a bomb (thats very easy to make too) is a breeze. No one can trust the growing number of Muslims working in the airline industry. Lists of employees and workers are suspect and should be an eye-opener to traveling these days.
“It would be interesting to map where our aircraft carriers in the Med were located 2-3 days surrounding the crash. Of course that wouldn’t be public knowledge.”
With this regime, it is probably published on the internet 5 minutes after the fleet gets its orders, along with a free tracking app...
Consider that every international flight anywhere in the world is in constant contact with someone.
When outside of radar coverage (trans-oceanic) there are position reports to be maintained if for no other reason than to keep the airline company appraised of their status in regard to scheduling.
All it takes is a push of the finger to make radio contact.
Complete radio silence indicates either complete and utter electrical failure, battery backup included (unimaginable), lack of ability by the crew to do so (dead or incapacitated), both captain and first Officer simultaneously (unlikely) or an "inside job" by one or both of the flight crew.
Where do you live?
If she is going on Medicare she can get a supplement that will help with her meds nd Doc visits.
Internment would solve a lot of these problems.
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