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The Head Of One Of The Best Universities Says That Affirmitive Action Means 'Lower Standards'
BI ^ | 5-17-2016 | Abby Jackson

Posted on 05/17/2016 4:29:29 PM PDT by blam

May 17, 2016
Abby Jackson

Responding to criticism about dismal diversity metrics, Chris Patten, the chancellor of the University of Oxford, disparaged the concept of racial quotas, as Quartz reported.

In an interview with The Telegraph, Patten said that quotas lower standards:

I am in favor of universities recognizing their responsibilities for promoting social inclusion. But I don’t think that if you want high-class universities, you should expect them to lower their standards in order to make up for some inadequacies in our secondary education system.

Nobody will explain to me how you can make a system of quotas work while retaining the highest admissions standards. Quotas must mean lower standards. There are better ways of addressing social inclusion at universities.

Patten's remarks blame high schools, rather than Oxford, for failing to prepare certain students for acceptance into prestigious universities.

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1 posted on 05/17/2016 4:29:29 PM PDT by blam
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But I don’t think that if you want high-class universities, you should expect them to lower their standards in order to make up for some inadequacies in our secondary education system.

He's hedging his bet.

He knows the real root of the problem and it isn't the secondary education system.

Inadequacies in the secondary education system wouldn't account for the disparity in ability and admission scores between
the Affirmative Action crowd and regular admissions.

He knows it, we know it, the whole western world knows it.


2 posted on 05/17/2016 4:37:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If liberals were in charge of the oceans, in 5 years they would be vast water-less deserts)
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Patten's remarks blame high schools, rather than Oxford, for failing to prepare certain students for acceptance into prestigious universities.

Yeah, and the ideas that wrecked the high schools came from prestigious universities.

3 posted on 05/17/2016 4:38:33 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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4 posted on 05/17/2016 4:39:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Of course it does. ...and now your fired.


5 posted on 05/17/2016 4:40:24 PM PDT by Eddie01
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Thank God someone in the academic workd still has cojones.

Havaaad, Yale, etc appear to have pajama boy clones at the top.


6 posted on 05/17/2016 4:40:38 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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The secondary education system is being bogged down by the same social factors with which our dear liberals have bogged down nearly an entire race.


7 posted on 05/17/2016 4:41:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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That’s true everywhere, from Oxford, to Johnson & Johnson.


8 posted on 05/17/2016 4:41:40 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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I didn’t know Captain Obvious headed up a major university!


9 posted on 05/17/2016 4:42:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Keep out of our bathrooms)
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To: Iron Munro

Yep, what you said. He deftly skirted the issue by pushing the issue onto the secondary schools, thereby allowing the assumption of equal talent distribution to continue.

I don’t care what the cause is, or what the excuse is, but deviation from meritocracy hurts us all.


10 posted on 05/17/2016 4:43:17 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (The would-be Empress has no clothes. My eyes!)
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The theory I read back in the day was that inferior students who graduated did just as well as qualified graduates. I ran into affirmative action graduates for the last third of my career. They got passed around quickly by program managers because for the most part they sucked a charge number dry while producing nothing useful. Often, they ended up on overhead jobs like the diversity council or some other liberal make-work job. My tactic for handling most of them was to sit for a friendly chat, then pull out my report and ask, “last week you charged forty hours to my number. What was it you did for me?” Sometimes they were flabbergasted that I even asked. But if they kept charging it I would check their card and stop by more frequently. Most of the time I could shame them in to sucking somebody else’s charge number. Once I was accused of racism and harassment. But after he complained and I’d been talked to by HR, they moved him to somebody else.


11 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:26 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Affirmative action means lower standards. Just look at the Alan Bakke case. Dr. Bakke finally got into medical school and has performed well whereas the affirmative action admitted student lost his license for illegal actions and malpractice.
12 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:36 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Having a best university is racist against crappy universities. Stop university privilege.


13 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:44 PM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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Isn’t that what Scalia or Thomas recently said in one of their decision, which created a liberal firestorm?


14 posted on 05/17/2016 4:49:00 PM PDT by iontheball
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Actually, Harvard has Pajama GIRL clones at the top—equipped with vicious Feminazi ideology!!!!

Let’s Make Harvard Great Again!!!! Drew Gilpin-Faust, YOU’RE FIRED!!!!


15 posted on 05/17/2016 4:49:11 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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our American universities have been infected with this racist admissions and grading policy since at least the 1960’s

you will find much more racism in university admissions offices (and amongst some of the faculties) than anywhere else in America, bar none (except maybe if you dare enter a mosque, but I sure wouldn’t recommend that!)


16 posted on 05/17/2016 4:50:25 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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Heh! Well said.


17 posted on 05/17/2016 4:50:56 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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18 posted on 05/17/2016 4:51:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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Often, they ended up on overhead jobs like the diversity council or some other liberal make-work job.

This is the primary reason that the various "studies" programs exist in universities. The colleges are trying to make their numbers and need somewhere to dump the affirmative action cases, both faculty and students.

19 posted on 05/17/2016 4:56:45 PM PDT by sphinx
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Chancellor's an honorary position that they give to retired politicians (like Chris Patten of Hong Kong fame). The Vice Chancellor does the actual work.

Until recently, ethnic minorities weren't that large a part of Britain's population outside the big cities. That's changing.

20 posted on 05/17/2016 4:59:57 PM PDT by x
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