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Hmmm: Navy “fires” commander of sailors captured by Iran (Video in the link)
Hot Air.com ^ | May 13, 2016 | ED MORRISEY

Posted on 05/13/2016 10:25:13 AM PDT by Kaslin

Accountability matters, especially in the military — and the US Navy just delivered some internal accountability for the capture of sailors by Iran. NBC, ABC, and other news agencies report that the Navy has “fired” Commander Eric Rasch, the executive officer of the sailors in the embarrassing January incident. This reverses the promotion Rasch got while the investigation took place, and will end any hopes he has for promotion:

The Navy has fired the commander of the 10 American sailors who entered Iranian territorial waters in the Persian Gulf and were captured and held by Iran for about 15 hours.

In a statement Thursday, the Navy said it had lost confidence in Cmdr. Eric Rasch, who was the executive officer of the squadron that included the 10 sailors at the time of the January incident. He was responsible for the training and readiness of the more than 400 sailors in the unit.

A Navy official said Rasch failed to provide effective leadership, leading to a lack of oversight, complacency and failure to maintain standards in the unit. The official was not authorized to discuss the details publicly so spoke on condition of anonymity.

“Fired” in this context doesn’t mean Rasch will sign up for unemployment benefits. The Navy has relieved him of his command and reassigned him to “other tasks,” which basically means a desk job with fewer responsibilities and opportunities. He’ll continue to serve, but Rasch and everyone else knows that he’s now on borrowed time, and will have to start considering his next career sooner rather than later.

CNN reports that the Navy has not ruled out more disciplinary action for others involved in the incident, and the initial report of its origins shows that it’s more likely to involve a number of people. The list of failures CNN cites shows that the responsibility appears to be rather wide-spread:

 

• The sailors had never made the trip before.
• They had been up most of the night before conducting maintenance on one of the boats that had broken down.
• They had to “cannibalize” parts from a third boat in order to have two working vessels.
• They then experienced problems with their satellite communications gear. …

In addition, they did not conduct a standard operational briefing for themselves prior to setting sail, during which they would have fully reviewed their route and navigation plan.

The approved navigation path would have had them sail in international waters between the Iranian coastline and the eastern side of Farsi Island as they moved south toward Bahrain. Instead, they were significantly off course, sailing on the western side of the island.

In other words, it was a cascading series of blunders and failures that led to the humiliation of the US Navy and the propaganda coup realized by Iran. The sheer number of problems raises questions about the overall readiness of forces in sensitive areas, and few are more sensitive than the Persian Gulf. One would have expected the Navy to operate at peak efficiency that close to hostile territory rather than allow for such slipshod performance.

Clearly, that’s what the Navy expected too, and why the disciplinary action has begun. Rasch may be the first to face the music, but he won’t be the last. Like it or not, Rasch’s public dressing-down will serve the Navy as a reminder to other officers of the consequences of negligence and failure.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clusterflock; ericrasch; iran; iranseizesussailors; israel; lebanon; militarydiscipline; putingaveiranthebomb; rasch; russia; sailors; syria; usnavy; waronterror
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To: Kaslin

I think he was ordered to send the guys in. By the WH.


21 posted on 05/13/2016 11:57:43 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: smokingfrog

I believe so.

According to http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2016/05/12/iran-farsi-island-sailors-capture-firing-rasch-meyer/84225038/

“Cmdr. Gregory Meyer, who was commanding officer at the time of the incident, is currently with Coastal Riverine Group 1, and has been put on “administrative hold,” meaning the Navy will not transfer him out of the unit, while a high-level review of the Navy’s investigation into the incident continues, said two officials familiar with internal deliberations.”


22 posted on 05/13/2016 12:01:28 PM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Kaslin

Hope that captured U.S. sailor who answered “Fantastic!” when asked by the Iranian female in the propaganda video how they’d been treated, was at least yelled at and retrained, if not demoted, after their return. If he thought his hyperbole would be seen as too ridiculous to be believed and he’d be viewed as funny/hip, he was foolishly mistaken imo.


23 posted on 05/13/2016 12:04:57 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Retain Mike
That's what my bro said.....there is a lot more visual tools to checking things out.

One of his favorites was being on watch and seeing a periscope emerge miles ahead of them....but his ships turn was in the knick of time because....a thing in motion....

Hell, I have a GPS unit hooked to my purse.

Sounds like the crews might have been playing games...(like we dare you)...

24 posted on 05/13/2016 12:07:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: GAgal

Two fingers up would have been nice....


25 posted on 05/13/2016 12:09:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: batterycommander

The original commander wasn’t Christian?


26 posted on 05/13/2016 12:11:56 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t know what to believe, except the whole incident was a Charlie Foxtrot from the top down.

5.56mm


27 posted on 05/13/2016 12:13:30 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Roccus; smokingfrog

Also this

http://time.com/4328897/navy-iran-boats-eric-rasch-persian-gulf/


28 posted on 05/13/2016 12:16:39 PM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Kaslin

I seriously doubt the surrender order came from Raush. Or if it did it didn’t originate from him. There’s way more to this whole deal.


29 posted on 05/13/2016 12:37:33 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Kaslin

What if our Commander In Chief surrendered at Benghazi?

Would he be fired?

Should he be fired?


30 posted on 05/13/2016 12:40:15 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
Would he be fired?

Probably not

Should he be fired

This arrogant pos? Definitely

31 posted on 05/13/2016 1:12:56 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: combat_boots

That would not surprise me one bit.


32 posted on 05/13/2016 1:15:47 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

Fired him?
When did the military system change.
You are not hired or fired. You enlist and you get discharged. Honorably or dishonorably.


33 posted on 05/13/2016 1:48:25 PM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: ColdOne

I’m sorry, I was misinformed. The blamed commander, Rassh is JOOOOOISH. Odumgo hates Jooos more than he hates Christians.


34 posted on 05/13/2016 4:33:08 PM PDT by batterycommander (Keep calm and call for artillery.)
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To: batterycommander

Er, Rasch is a Jewish name according to Google. The Navy traditionally has discriminated against the Jooos.


35 posted on 05/13/2016 4:57:32 PM PDT by batterycommander (Keep calm and call for artillery.)
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To: Kaslin
" He’ll continue to serve, but Rasch and everyone else knows that he’s now on borrowed time, and will have to start considering his next career sooner rather than later."


36 posted on 05/13/2016 6:49:16 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (bombastic selfdeclared billionaire with penchant for crony capitalism and state subsidies)
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To: Retain Mike

“But the Pueblo Incident was on everyone’s mind and that was going to be our response.”

I’d love to know what happened to all of them on that ship.

We wondered why they didn’t resist and whether or not they were told to stand down if approached.

Will never forget the photo of Commander Bucher in the Stars and Stripes.

IMHO


37 posted on 05/14/2016 4:17:26 AM PDT by ripley
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"A Navy official said Rasch failed to provide effective leadership, leading to a lack of oversight, complacency and failure to maintain standards in the unit."

Sounds like the pResident, and grounds for HIS firing.

38 posted on 05/14/2016 7:58:58 AM PDT by jackibutterfly ("Frightenng that the whole future of our nation lies in the hands of a single man: Sen McConnell")
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To: batterycommander

;)


39 posted on 05/14/2016 10:09:46 AM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: ripley

I am sure there are a couple good books around by now to answer the questions you raised. Below are links to the articles in the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings covering the subject. I have given links to Proceedings articles before, but never knew if the process worked because I had to log in as a member to get to them. If the links work for you, please let me know.

Bucher on the Pueblo
http://www.usni.org/document/bucher-lloyd-m-1989-115-2-1032pdf?magazine_article=66897

Pete Bucher and the Pueblo: They Were Expendable
http://www.usni.org/document/mccomb-r-b-2004-130-6-1216pdf?magazine_article=77773

The Pueblo Scapegoat
http://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2014-08/pueblo-scapegoat


40 posted on 05/14/2016 10:51:22 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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