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Donald Trump Says Transgender People Should Use the Bathroom They Want
New York Times ^ | 04/21/2016 | Ashley Parker

Posted on 04/21/2016 9:53:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Donald J. Trump said Thursday that transgender people should be allowed to use whatever bathroom they feel most comfortable with — including at Trump Tower in New York.

Dipping into a contentious issue by taking a stand many Republicans oppose, Mr. Trump told a town-hall-style event, hosted by NBC’s “Today” show at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan, that when people go to the restroom, they should “use the bathroom they feel is appropriate.”

Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential front-runner, was responding to a question about a bill that North Carolina’s governor signed into law last month that bars individuals in the state from using public bathrooms that don’t correspond to their biological sex — the one listed on their birth certificate. Since then, there has been a backlash from businesses and celebrities opposed to the state’s action. And transgender issues have pitted social conservatives against business interests that traditionally have been part of the Republican coalition in the South and elsewhere.

“North Carolina did something — it was very strong — and they’re paying a big price,” Mr. Trump said. “And there’s a lot of problems. And I heard — one of the best answers I heard was from a commentator yesterday saying, leave it the way it is, right now.”

He added that before the law passed, there had been “very few problems” but now North Carolina is experiencing an exodus of businesses and “strife” from people on both sides of the issue.

“You leave it the way it is,” he said. “There have been very few complaints the way it is.”

North Carolina’s law, which also removed anti-discrimination protections for L.G.B.T. people, and the backlash to it, is now at the heart of the state’s hotly contested governor’s race.

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To: kygolfman

No kidding. :^(


181 posted on 04/21/2016 1:02:47 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yes because statistics show there is an epidemic of Lesbians sexual abusing kids.

Does it happen? Sure, but it’s very rare. Mostly, Lesbians don’t care much for kids. As sexual objects or otherwise.


182 posted on 04/21/2016 1:03:22 PM PDT by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’d sell their souls for Trump. Some already have.


183 posted on 04/21/2016 1:04:12 PM PDT by DrewsMum (If they wanted a conservative, they'd vote for one.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Ok, so my perception of your position is that you feel perverts in the ladies restroom, locker rooms and showers is a non-issue and we should be focusing on things of importance.

I did notice on your profile page scriptural versus from the bible. I assumed you believed God's word. My reading of scripture tells me these things are evil and against God's will. Transgenderism being a satanic deception. It is a security threat to children not simply because they are dressed as a woman, it is because of emotional instability.

We can call it there.
God bless partner.

184 posted on 04/21/2016 1:06:04 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: The Right wing Infidel

If a transgender who is in drag wearing make up and goes to the ladies room and sits down to pee, who would ever know? No doubt they have done it since the flush toilet had been invented.
what would cause a stir is a man in drag going into the mens room!
same goes for a butch female going in the mens room, although it would have to use a stall to pee in.


185 posted on 04/21/2016 1:13:49 PM PDT by HWGruene (REMEMBER THE ALAMO! Really, no kidding.)
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To: rdcbn

As posted before, this is actually what trump said.

“”North Carolina did something that was very strong and they’re paying a big price. And there’s a lot of problems.” Trump said. “Leave it the way it is. North Carolina, what they’re going through, with all of the business and all of the strife — and that’s on both sides — you leave it the way it is. There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. There has been so little trouble. And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic punishment they’re taking.”


186 posted on 04/21/2016 1:17:55 PM PDT by Snark
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187 posted on 04/21/2016 1:26:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: Snark
I agree with Trump on this.

We don't need any new laws either banning or allowing anyone

If you are transgender and pass for female (or male) no one will know one way or another so no problem

If you don't or if you are disruptive or dangerous then existing laws protect women

The whole issue is a made up PR stunt and power grab the left is trying to ram down our throats to solve a non existent problem

Just leave things the way they are. Most public places have alternate private rest rooms used for changing diapers and such which solves the issue

188 posted on 04/21/2016 1:29:45 PM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Milleraere)
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To: servantboy777
Ok, so my perception of your position is that you feel perverts in the ladies restroom, locker rooms and showers is a non-issue and we should be focusing on things of importance.

If it's an issue, it's like way way down the list of priorities, so low that no one would notice it if GOPers trying to gaslight on social issues didn't pass a law against it.

My reading of scripture tells me these things are evil and against God's will.

Trust me, I'm a bigger extremist than even you. But there are issues that are important-- like TPP, the collapse of the country, world war 3, and then there is a fight over bathrooms being used by GOPers who just want to screw us over.

189 posted on 04/21/2016 2:00:15 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: QuigleyDU
T**** did not say anything about the truth. He merely gave us his opinion in that he was against the NC law. T**** is a social liberal, showing us his New York values.

If you want to vote for a liberal in November, please do so. For me, I can guarantee you, there are plenty of people like me, who will not. We will either not vote, write-in or vote for Hillary. But I do not want a social liberal pretending to be something different in the White House. I will do all I can to make sure T**** will never become president. When he loses in November, we can start to rebuild the republican party. I am waiting for 2020.

190 posted on 04/21/2016 2:17:58 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: liberalism is suicide
Brilliant question and judging from the many comments on this thread pretending it's nothing, they know deep down in their souls this is wrong.

This web site and posters show you how far we have fallen. Can you imagine the number of posters that would have approved of T****'s comments a mere 4 years ago. Now they are everywhere here just shrugging their shoulders and urging us to get over it and it's not a big deal.

191 posted on 04/21/2016 2:23:22 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: GeaugaRepublican

RE: I thought Americans wanted fewer regulations?

There were no regulations until a Charlotte municipal ordinance that allowed transgender individuals to use any restroom they wanted, regardless of whether it was designated for men or for women.

The bill overrides the city’s ordinance and prevents other cities in North Carolina from imposing similar measures.

Your argument then becomes government should not be in the business of determining whether or not a man wants to go to a woman’s bathroom and should not be passing a law preventing that.

Well, may I ask you respectfully, such a common sense law was not necessary in the first place. Why did Charlotte pass a law ALLOWING Transgenders to go to women’s bathrooms in the first place?

If it is one job of the government, it is to protect its citizenry from harm. The purpose of HB2 is to ensure that people, especially women and children but men as well, can use public restrooms, locker rooms, and changing areas without being exposed to people of the opposite biological sex. It’s pretty common sense.

If you want government out of your knickers, then don’t insist on men with different knickers violate what society has recognized and adhered to since the founding of this nation.


192 posted on 04/21/2016 2:38:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They are already using the restroom of their choice and most of us don’t know it...If a fake female (really male) uses the womens room, obviously he has to use a stall....if a fake male (really female) uses a mens room, she also has to use a stall.....probably can’t handle a urinal. Since they both use stalls, who cares???....locker rooms and shower facilities are obviously different situations and should be strictly assigned for those with a penis and those without one.


193 posted on 04/21/2016 2:41:15 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
It’s a completely absurd picture. That man would be arrested for indecent exposure and probably a dozen other laws if he was snapping pictures.

When was the last time that you were in a men's room at a store, school, sporting event, etc....when there was a staff member present to enforce whatever rules that existed.....doesn't happen.

194 posted on 04/21/2016 2:44:32 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: terycarl
When was the last time that you were in a men's room at a store, school, sporting event, etc....when there was a staff member present to enforce whatever rules that existed.....doesn't happen.

When was the last time you saw a bonafide Tranny walking into the bathroom. They're literally less than 1 percent of the entire population.

195 posted on 04/21/2016 2:47:50 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: EinNYC
You want your wife or daughter in the same bathroom as an el wacko man claiming to be transgender?

They probably have been for years....they're in stalls, private stalls, who knows who is what....

Men's rooms, with urinals are different and a lot more happens with others watching than in a woman's room.

196 posted on 04/21/2016 2:48:44 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: DesertRhino
And you are delusional if you think an 11 year old, or a 13 year old is under a parents supervision at every moment. Or maybe not delusional, just not a parent.

Of course they aren't under parental supervision at all times, however, there is SELDOM a person in authority there either. There have probably been wierdos in our restrooms for years, men dressed as women and vice-versa...in schools and such places, maybe it could be controlled....in public restrooms....never.

197 posted on 04/21/2016 3:01:34 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: SeekAndFind

Transgender people have been around for a long time. As a woman, I have used Ladies rooms and shared them with transgenders and lesbians as well.

Charlotte passes a bad law and then N.C. passes a bad law in response.

All of a sudden this is a big deal? Between this and the Harriet Tubman $20 bill, it sounds like an election year!

Fundraising fodder for both sides.

No wonder we cannot solve our problems.

We cannot see the forest for the trees.


198 posted on 04/21/2016 3:02:10 PM PDT by GeaugaRepublican (Ted Cruz is the Jr. Senator from Canada.)
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To: Dave W
This is why T**** is unqualified to be president. He is an intellectual idiot. In addition, he has the discipline and temperament of a five year old.

Yeah, so let's elect crooked Hillary or her communist counterpart, or perhaps a first term senator....we know how well they work out....certainly wouldn't want a successful, world renowned, businessman who employs thousands of people to be considered.........PATHETIC

199 posted on 04/21/2016 3:07:20 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: GeaugaRepublican

RE: Transgender people have been around for a long time. As a woman, I have used Ladies rooms and shared them with transgenders and lesbians as well.

If you are Transgender and you have male plumbing, don’t tell government to pass laws to change anything. If you need to go to the bathroom, go to the bathroom of your choice without telling the world what kind of person you are.

How’s that? why do you have to advertise your orientation to the whole world and tell government to get involved justifying it?

But they’re not happy with the status quo, they have to pass a law that now opens the door for fake transgenders out there and every sick voyeur to go to the bathroom of the opposite sex.

If you don’t want more government regulation, then don’t pass any new unnecessary laws that will now require others to demand a law protecting their children from potential predators.

I’m talking about you Charlotte, NC.


200 posted on 04/21/2016 3:24:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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