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Ted Cruz Tries, Fails to Explain ‘New York Values’ to Actual New Yorkers
NY Mag ^ | 7 Apr 16 | Claire Landsbaum

Posted on 04/07/2016 8:30:04 AM PDT by xzins

Cruz's reception in New York was chilly.

Back in January, Ted Cruz made the mistake of assuming the rest of America still hates New York. His dismissal of "New York values" didn't endear him to the Empire State — Governor Cuomo demanded an apology from Cruz, and the New York Daily News did what the New York Daily News does best — and as expected, the comment came back to haunt him as he campaigned in the Bronx on Wednesday.

Meanwhile, at a massive rally in Long Island, Donald Trump, who's polling ahead of Cruz in New York by a wide margin, used the senator's remarks against him. "Do you remember during the debate when he started lecturing me on New York values like we're no good?" Trump asked the crowd. "Folks, I think you can forget about him."

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To: HarleyLady27
I love those ‘New York Values’

See post 12.

401 posted on 04/07/2016 6:59:05 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Conservative Gato
..."How comical! "... Not at all...Cruz knows what he needs to do....and that's to prevent Trump from getting his delegates so that this does go to convention.... Cruz is Squeezing Trumps path to the nomination and the right thing to do at this stage of the game........his team has been busy at work in states where convention delegates are selected directly by party officials, while keeping Trump off balance evenn in his home state NY..... Trumps job is to get the delegates before convention...and he knows that's not likely or he would not have hired 'Manafort', (who by the way has strong ties with the old guard party members)to organize for Convention....

Upper state New Yorkers aren't all progressives.....they have other "values" then NY City Liberals......The "blue-state-conservatives" reject the liberal values espoused by their state's politicians........Remember it was Gov. Cuomo that told them.." there is no place in New York for conservatives."......They're showing otherwise as they began going into to hear Cruz....


402 posted on 04/07/2016 7:02:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: Fhios

“Trump: “I am pro-life”.”

Really? Here are his own words ...


TRUMP: Well, look. I’m very pro-choice.

RUSSERT: Or ban partial-birth abortion.

TRUMP: No


403 posted on 04/07/2016 7:04:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Windflier

“Ted insulted the whole state on national television. “

Uh, no. You were only insulted in you voted for communist De Blasio ...


404 posted on 04/07/2016 7:06:36 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: eartick

Trump still has a chance to get 1273 before this is over.


405 posted on 04/07/2016 7:08:52 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Lucky9teen
I find it interesting that the ONLY way Trump (and his minions) are able to attack Cruz, is by using leftist strategies.

You got that right. But then Trump is a Democrat.

406 posted on 04/07/2016 7:09:28 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: eartick

Yeah yeah yeah. He has won texas, Oklahoma, Utah and Wisconsin. I am highly impressed. Lol.


407 posted on 04/07/2016 7:11:03 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: xzins
But what Cruz said within the last year about BOTH letting illegals stay

See? Now you're lying.

408 posted on 04/07/2016 7:11:07 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: cincinnati65
Couldn’t be worse than any of the pandering he did to evangelicals in Iowa......


409 posted on 04/07/2016 7:13:38 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: xzins
Friends oF The Donald agree.


410 posted on 04/07/2016 7:15:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: xzins
Cruz lost all 3 of those

Trump wasn't the top vote-getter in any of the three. So let's go by the standard already in place instead of inventing new ones that favor Trump.

411 posted on 04/07/2016 7:17:49 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: stars & stripes forever

satan always overplays his hand.


412 posted on 04/07/2016 7:22:27 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: servantboy777

New York is ranked #1 in political corruption.... is ranked the worst state in America for taxpayers....and excessive regulations have us ranked dead last in “freedom”...

Is it these “values” driving the consistent exodus of taxpayers out of New York State.... from 2000-2010, 3.4 million residents ‘moved out of New York’...Plus... the it was featured 3rd in Forbes as The States People are Fleeing in 2014.

Nothing there to toot about I’d say.


413 posted on 04/07/2016 7:28:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: nathanbedford

Trump took some very unpopular (to the media) stands that were tactically foolish but strategically smart. He also got involved in very odd tactical engagements for seemingly no reason (Megyn Kelly and Cruz birtherism, for instance). He’s a mix, but I’ve watched Cruz step on his crank for years due to his lack of strategic foresight. He’s completely isolated himself in the Senate as a result.


414 posted on 04/07/2016 7:29:15 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Fantasywriter
Lies are all you have.

Good grief, man. He gave you the link. Trump said it. It is Trump's own words.

415 posted on 04/07/2016 7:33:36 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Hoodat

Some folks just don't get it. They just can't wrap their heads around around the fact this has been one big epic con-job. Others are in on the charade for their own self interest. The jig is up.

416 posted on 04/07/2016 7:34:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: diamond6
Show me the polls for all 27 districts. I’m still waiting...

Do you really expect this from people who make it up as they go?

417 posted on 04/07/2016 7:36:15 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Conservative Gato

Nothing deceptive about it....it’s the game...and one the Trump wasn’t prepared to play for the long haul. So he’s buckling down at the last moment to catch up.

Everybody who was informed knows this goes to convention if the delegate count isn’t reached....everybody but Trump who ignored his manager who told him as much.

The last Presidential races were won by the “hope and change” candidate.... make no mistake about it Trumps daily hoo-rahs are of similar progressive deception.

What was Trumps speech when he arrived back in his home state.....just rattling on and on “Lyin Ted, Lying Ted, Lyin Ted”.... Attack, attack, attack. ...No policy messages, no intelligent messages at all!


418 posted on 04/07/2016 7:37:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: Future Snake Eater
He’s completely isolated himself in the Senate as a result.

Did Cruz isolate himself or was he abandoned by the very GOPe establishment in the Senate that we all deplore? And are we not hypocrites for deploring these craven senators who abandoned Cruz and then in the next breath fault Cruz for not prevailing when he opposes those establishment senators?

Do we resemble more stalwart conservatives who stood with Cruz like Senator Lee of Utah or do we resemble more the craven senators who abandoned him?

I know whom Donald Trump resembles and it is an unflattering image.

This from another part of the post which I originally had quoted:

Trump supporters spend a lot of time castigating the GOPe, and there is much to decry, but they ought to ask themselves what sort of message are they sending to freshly elected conservative Representatives and Senators who see how fickle the conservative base is when it comes to supporting a man who stood on the floor of the Senate all night with a urine bag tied to his leg fighting for that conservative base. These newly elected representatives and senators will conclude, and rightly so, that there is no upside in fighting the good fight against the establishment in Washington because the base will desert them to go whoring after a mountebank who shows them a little leg.


419 posted on 04/07/2016 7:40:01 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: caww
Nothing deceptive about it....it’s the game...and one the Trump wasn’t prepared to play for the long haul. So he’s buckling down at the last moment to catch up.

Buts Trumps winning.


420 posted on 04/07/2016 7:41:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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