Posted on 03/03/2016 7:23:25 AM PST by raptor22
Shortly after he claimed to be a “unifier” during his Super Tuesday press conference, Donald Trump was at it again, lambasting “so-called conservatives” who don’t share his liberal position on Planned Parenthood, continuing to insist he applauds the group because it allegedly “does a lot of good of good things” for women’s health.
Similar logic applies to his position on ObamaCare. He loves the coercive freedom- and job-killing individual mandate, which is the heart of ObamaCare, because he doesn’t want to see bodies in the street, a classic liberal rhetorical scare tactic. Planned Parenthood may do the occasional mammogram referral, but the heart of its business has been abortions, and money, the saying goes is fungible. His support of Planned Parenthood is incompatible with his claim to have seen the pro-life light.
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I agree that a re-discovering of the beauty of children and family would be an excellent place to start. Reminding women through example how wonderful motherhood can be is an excellent place to begin. Women have forgotten and been told otherwise for a long time. There seems to have been an agenda to make women somehow feel that being a wife and mother is not a noble and good thing.
And it might just be, that Donald has a valid formula, if not the theoretically best one, to attract a blessing from God.
It looks like an honest, if sometimes clumsily and even ignorantly executed, attempt at populism.
If the people still have some vestige of their right minds left, this will result in improvement.
God had no grudge against America. It’s America that has a grudge against God.
And the fear of an ineffective Savior, might be due to an ineffective modern church presentation of a Savior.
I have theorized that this in turn could be due to the long standing acceptance of a “Christianized” America. At one point, 70-80% of Americans claimed to be Christian. This created a barrier against evangelism, because if you figuratively believe you are an Eskimo, of course nobody will be able to sell you ice. Even if in fact you have no ice.
Tares should be granted the freedom to look like tares. They shouldn’t be churchily coated with powdered wheat, so to speak. Jesus’ dramatic salvations of sinners took place at a time when this was true at the popular level at least (the Pharisees were grim hypocritical exceptions, and they got the rare hell fire preaching treatment from Jesus).
Except that he can’t do it that way. If he supports them financially, they decide how to spend the money, not him. They don’t have separate accounts for abortion funding and the few other services they offer.
I don’t know which of these claims are true and which are pulled out of our maximally fearful rears.
I do know there were some fungibility arguments years ago, tied to general contributions to PP. The argument went that, as long as general contribution practices went on, donations to PP’s non-abortion wing would release general contributions to go to the abortion wing.
But this was decades ago and people are more sensitive on the concept of abortion now. If these general contributions have dwindled to near zero, the dynamics are no longer what they were either.
You are correct that money is fungible. Federal law already prohibits using Medicaid or other federal funds for almost all abortions. As you note, the pea under the shell just gets shuffled and taxpayers still land up paying for abortions.
That’s why the bill congress just passed in January (and which was quickly vetoed by Obama) would have barred the use of Medicaid coverage at Planned Parenthood for any services. Any one of the top 3 Republican contenders would sign that bill.
Very simply I do not look for world leaders ( politicians) Americans or otherwise to be saviors. I am aware that many do, because for a percentage of people the government is God. For me, there is only one Jesus and he is the only savior.
Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Obama, Clinton, Bush, they are only men and when you look for salvation from men not God you will always be disappointed. Some world leaders have been better than others some worse.
At the end of the day we can only vote for the person we trust to do what he says he will do on the issues that are important to us. Will whomever we elect uphold the principles that founded our nation? It involves trying to discern what is really in a politician’s heart. Not so easy to do.
In fact the “baby part sales” might be a desperate, if clever, attempt to keep the abortion wing of PP flying. Because other means ARE failing. Public pressure IS speaking.
And when Trump speaks the same thing as the public, I think the public owes him some respect for doing so.
He’s not FR-conservative pluperfect. But again he never stated that to be the goal.
Trump is like a standardized box of chocolates. You know what you are going to get because you’ve already been eating out of another one of the same kind. To complain it isn’t a special edition, is beyond the point.
Have they all gone on the record to say so? I would really like to know.
Which suggests the best approach might just be to choose the one who seems to allow the church the most room.
One can persecute the church in two ways. Either being vicious towards it, or by being bribingly sweet towards it. Keeping in the zone between the two would be the best policy for a government to take.
I’m glad you know what you’re going to get with a Trump box of chocolates, because I am actually not sure. Like good old Forest Gump quoting his momma “ Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gonna get” There is nothing “standard” about Trump.
But the over-the-top expressions of support that I’m reading from some Trump supporters is beginning to scare the h3ck out of me.
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It is good the have the Hell scared out of you! The Eternal Lake of Fire is not a good place to spend eternity!
The one thing you don’t have to worry about is that Donald Trump will preach to you, unlike some who are running this time. He will tell you about the “love in the room”, how we are going to be able to say “Merry Christmas”, how he is not going to let people in who want to cut our heads off, etc.
Now, Long Fellow Muse, thinks, ‘A politician who is unrepentant in his sin of serial adultery does not have “The hand of Providence”.’ He/she is in the group of people who want to judge other people’s morals on past behavior, and ignore the redeeming power of Jesus Christ. They are the kind of people who think Saint Paul shouldn’t have been allowed to write more than half of the New Testament because he held the Jews’ coats while they stoned Saint Steven.
One of the things that is most amazing to me about the incredible Grace of God is that he uses sinners, like me, to achieve his Plan of Salvation for His World. The fact that the Revelation 12:1-2 “Great Sign in the Heavens” is about to actually, literally, happen on September 23-24, 2017, means that the “Satan gets to tempt people, and people get to rule themselves” part of YHWH’s Salvation Plan is rapidly coming to a close. The “Satan is bound”, Jesus Christ is “ruling with a rod of iron”, and people can still choose to be wicked, i.e., have their own way, part of the plan is about to commence.
So, seeing Donald Trump as a type of Samson, sent to pull down the Temple of Dagon on the Philistines, i.e. NWO Establishment in America, doesn’t seem to be much of an over-reaction.
It was ignored in the middle of much hooting, but Trump did speak up against the present concept of Roe v. Wade.
It makes sense as a populist. Well over half of America is that way, still considering Roe v. Wade to be outre. This is why Mother Teresa could complain that it deformed the nation. The nation wasn’t even there. It was, and still is, being bent by a constitutional fluke that overly trusted the Supreme Court, against its will. A Trump cure could be a sufficient cure here, and he might be forgiven a lot of other sins (on a social level, what he does with God in the end is between him and God) for coming through here.
Also what would repentance look like? At least according to the loose view of scripture on marriage, he ought to stay with his current wife (assuming they have had sex) and treat the others as respectfully as possible in the aftermath. Which, oddly enough, seems to be the case. Maybe his playboy days are over.
Paul was repentant... Trump is not...why is that so hard to understand?
The amount of wickedness possible to choose in such an era would be drastically limited, and it may be that nobody or almost nobody will draw significant wrath during that era in spite of the tight rule. It is the era of “The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them.”
Wickedness is a “takes two to tango” thing where one dancer is man, the other Satan.
How do you deem him “not.” Some of this criterion might be a Pharisee-esque attitude on your part, Churchianity rather than Christianity.
This is not Israel where one would “divorce foreign wives.” Limiting the harm by not breaking the latest promise, while making amends if necessary to the rest (and none seem to be asking amends) would seem in order.
The left fails to point out that Planned Parenthood charges full price for providing these services to patients unwilling to undergo PP abortions.
And so what, my answer is a combination of “picky point, this is the market being the market” and “how are they going to know if a customer, not asking for an abortion or even pregnant yet, is lying?”
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