Posted on 02/20/2016 6:44:45 AM PST by raptor22
Politics makes strange bedfellows, as the saying goes, but maybe it’s not so strange that the anti-war loony left group Code Pink praised Donald Trump’s embrace of their “Bush Lied, People Died†mantra in the South Carolina debate. Trump’s comments that President George W. Bush deliberately sent Americans to their deaths based on a lie and knew 9/11 was coming and did nothing fits Code Pink’s alternate universe. Trump’s character assassination of the last Republican President should disqualify him from being the next one.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
“... abject rancor I’ve seen from Cruz supporters here.”
sound familiar?
CODE PINK ENDORSES TRUMP PING
Could be because they think he’d be easiest for their liberal, socialist to beat...ala McCain....
The same people elected Obama based on hope and change.
Possibly. Could also be that they think that if he gets elected, he will do the least damage to their liberal goals.
Ain’t that the truth!
as many of the trump cross over voters in the primary will vote for him in the general as code pinkers will..
(hint, that ain’t many)
The author lies about what Trump said about 9/11. Trump didn’t say that Bush knew 9/11 was coming, and didn’t do anything about it.
As for Bush invading Iraq. Bush2 came into office with a grudge against Hussein, since he had stayed in power and Bush1 had been kicked to the curb. Plus, Bush2 staffed his administration almost exclusively with neo-cons, who fed Bush the exaggerated claims by Israel regarding the threat from Iraq. Bush2 bought this hook line and sinker, because they gave him the excuse he was looking for. He didn’t bother to question the motives of his advisors.
Double and triple yawn! See this same crap filled post up and couple days... It ain’t gettin’ old - it is old.
Frankly, I believe that still exists here, but I am not going to slick down thru every daily Cincinatus'Wife drive-by post and responses from her supporters to demonstrate the validity of that, nor from any of the other dozens of anti-trump articles from Cruz supporters about the terrible Trump. I'll leave that for you to consider tonight after the results.
Feel your moral victory then. It is pyrrich at best my friend. As a consolation, if Ted prevails tonight, I'll STILL be content and congratulate him. Something I don't expect you'd be doing for Trump, eh?
That could be...
I don’t know...IMO, he is the hardest of all the candidates to read...The others kinda fall into that professional politician bracket that we’ve had for the last 25 years...
Say a lot, but do nothing...That’s the GOPe...
Say a lot, but do just the opposite...That’s the democrats...
I’m hoping he does what he says..He’s acted that way so far...
Somewhere PT Barnum is laughing his butt off
He is just joining in with more of his kind.
I used to think republicans were smarter than democrats.
“I used to think republicans were smarter than democrats.”
Me too.
We can disagree on those things, but what I will not countenance is the characterization that Bush outright lied, and the coupled accusation by the likes of Code Pink and MoveOn.org, that he lied to line his pockets with war profits.
It isn’t a matter of optics for me.
I spent a good deal of time facing off with Code Pink from 2004 to 2012, which is the last time I encountered them. Most of that time was counter-protesting them in support of the troops when they set up camp outside Walter Reed in Washington, DC, and other times were at various anti-war protests such as “The Gathering of Eagles” and so on. When I take the stand that they are spittle-lipped, vile, unhinged, good-for-nothing anti-American scumbags, I know of what I speak.
I have spent many hours listening the vomit that they characterize as speech, and reading their vile and hateful signs (held up outside a hospital with horribly maimed soldiers inside who could see them from their windows) and many of those solders took the time, when they could walk, to make their way out to us and made a point of telling us how much it hurt them to see the Code Pink people standing there with those hateful signs, chanting their vicious slogans.
I thank the DC Chapter of Free Republic for taking me in and allowing me to be part of their team.
If Code Pink wanted to make their points of disagreement on the war, I have spoken to many who have disagreed with me, and we were able to discuss those differences passionately and heatedly, but I won’t have discourse with people who made a policy of standing outside a hospital containing soldiers who had lost limbs, and worse, and holding up signs like “ENLIST HERE TO DIE FOR YOUR COUNTRY” and so on. (They learned to stop bringing those signs, over time)
As for the popularity or unpopularity of wars, wars are unpopular, and even WWII was unpopular. I was going through my fathers effects last night, and there was an entire newspaper from December 1944 there. There was a distinct shortage of war news in there, which means people on the civilian front didn’t feel like reading it any more. And that war was shorter than Iraq.
The point is, you do it because it is the right thing to do, or it isn’t. In the wake of 9/11 where we just had 3000 Americans murdered in the most public and shocking way, people all over this country wanted our government to do something about it. That is undeniable. I presume you lived through that time as I did.
One can take issue with prosecuting the war for a variety of reasons, but the fact that something had to be done is indisputable and undeniable. Instead of sending in troops should we have carpet bombed them? Nuked them? There are many here who think that we should have. I disagree. The Soviets tried that approach in Afghanistan. Regardless of what Code Pink says, the USA wasn’t the Nazis or the Soviets.
And if Bush had just sent in a few cruise missiles (the timidity of which led directly to 9/11 in the eyes of the man responsible for bringing it about) perhaps we wouldn’t be having debates today about nuking or not, since if weakness invites aggression (as it clearly does) then a timid response after 9/11 might have led to a terrorist gas attack. Or worse.
But that is all conjecture.
Point is, I believe that in the immediate shadow of 9/11 the administration did the best they could with the information they could get, which coming out of Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, was not 100% dependable no matter how it was sliced.
If you believe Bush knew there was solid proof that no WMD existed in Iraq anywhere, and that even if they did, they would never fall into the hands of any terrorists anywhere, then I would be glad to hear that solid proof, because I haven’t heard it.
And I have heard and seen plenty of solid evidence that there WERE indeed WMD stores in Iraq at some point in time (we have some Freepers here who saw with their own eyes). And that is enough for me. Our military certainly thought there were WMD when they went in. And that is justification enough.
That things didn’t turn out as people hoped is not a surprise, nothing is a given. But just surrendering without trying, as Bush could have done (but didn’t) and Obama DID is going to render a fairly predictable outcome.
I have no problem with Trump.
If you think a nice piece of art is going to be seen purely as a sick twisted mind will see it, guess again.
“Ted Cruz worked on Bush’s campaign, nothing more.”
Excuse me? You really need to get informed. Cruz wrote up quite the policy directive against Prop. 187 and wanting MORE immigration, but not much about enforcement!
Bush administration
Cruz joined the George W. Bush presidential campaign in 1999 as a domestic policy adviser, advising then-Governor George W. Bush on a wide range of policy and legal matters, including civil justice, criminal justice, constitutional law, immigration, and government reform.[49]
Cruz assisted in assembling the Bush legal team, devising strategy, and drafting pleadings for filing with the Supreme Court of Florida and U.S. Supreme Court, in the case Bush v. Gore, during the 2000 Florida presidential recounts, leading to two wins for the Bush team.[45][52] Cruz recruited future Chief Justice John Roberts and noted attorney Mike Carvin to the Bush legal team.[50]
After President Bush took office, Cruz served as an associate deputy attorney general in the U.S. Justice Department[3][52]
and as the director of policy planning at the U.S. Federal Trade Commission.[3][41][52]
When he was working for Bush, he crafted the campaign’s immigration policy, which included a sped-up application process, a greater number of work visas, and a provision that allowed relatives of permanent residents to visit the United States.
http://prospect.org/article/ted-cruz-immigration-shuffle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz
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