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Chicago judge to hear Ted Cruz presidential eligibility suit
Hot Air.com ^ | February 19, 2016 | TAYLOR MILLARD

Posted on 02/19/2016 5:01:48 PM PST by Kaslin

Ted Cruz’ eligibility to be on at least one state’s ballot is going to get a court hearing. A Chicago judge is scheduled to hear arguments today in a lawsuit claiming Cruz can’t run for president because he’s not a "natural born citizen". Via USA Today (emphasis mine):

Lawrence Joyce, an Illinois voter who has objected to Cruz’s placement on the Illinois primary ballot next month, will have his case heard in the Circuit Court of Cook County in Chicago. Joyce’s previous objection, made to the state’s Board of Elections, was dismissed on February 1. He appealed the decision and was granted a hearing for Friday before Judge Maureen Ward Kirby.

Joyce challenges Cruz’s right to be president in the wake of questions put forth by GOP rival Donald Trump about being born in Canada. Cruz maintains he is a natural-born citizen since his mother is American-born.

“What I fear is that Ted Cruz becomes the nominee, come September, Congressman Alan Grayson of Florida will go forward with his threats and probably several other Democrats will file suit to prevent Ted Cruz from being on the ballot,” Joyce, a pharmacist and attorney from Poplar Grove, Ill, told USA TODAY.

So if the state Board of Elections tossed his objection, then it’s pretty obvious they believe Cruz is a natural born citizen. Let’s give Joyce the benefit of the doubt and say he is trying to get the issue settled in court before Democrats (or Donald Trump) file a suit. Joyce did tell USA Today he’s worried the Democrats are going to "cherry pick" a court to toss Cruz off the ballot and cause electoral chaos. My only concern is why Cook County? Joyce’s hometown of Poplar Grove is in Boone County which is about 77 miles away from Chicago. You’d think Joyce, who is a Republican, would file it in Boone instead of making the trip to Chicago. It could just be he’s a skeptic based on this piece from RiverBender.com:

Joyce says he isn’t objecting on behalf of any Cruz’s opponents for the nomination, though he personally supports Ben Carson in the primary race. He also expressed skepticism over President Obama’s status as a natural-born citizen, despite the release of Obama’s birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii, and his mother was an American citizen.

Who knows, maybe he actually doesn’t believe Cruz fits the criteria to run for president. This is certainly something Trump supporters are making a big deal about based on their lawsuit in Alabama. One thing The Hill notes is there have been several GOP candidates who were born outside the U.S. but were still allowed on ballots:

The 1964 Republican nominee for president, Barry Goldwater, was born in the Arizona Territory before it was a state.

Former Michigan Gov. George Romney, father of 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, unsuccessfully sought the GOP nomination in 1968, even though he was born in Mexico to American parents.

And 2008 Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) was born on a military base in Panama to American parents.

I personally think Cruz is a natural born citizen because his mother is American, and children of Americans are given citizenship (as is any child who is born on American soil). Cruz told The Dallas Morning News he was shocked to find out he was technically still a Canadian citizen in 2013, and solved that problem by nullifying his Canadian citizenship in 2014. But here’s the thing: this wouldn’t be a big deal if people hadn’t made Barack Obama’s citizenship such a big deal in 2008. That opened up a Pandora’s Box which will probably never be closed because everyone likes their conspiracy theories and candidates will play dirty politics to get ahead (or at least cause trouble for the other side). Cruz’ birthplace might not even be a factor this year, if some on the Right hadn’t of decided to target Obama. There’s no doubt some on the Left are cackling with glee that they can use the same tactics (albeit failed tactics) on Cruz just to stick it to some on the Right. Cruz has every right to run for president, and those trying to make a big deal of the fact he was born in Calgary need to relax. This birther stuff was ridiculous with Obama and it’s ridiculous with Cruz. Here’s hoping the Cook County judge tosses it, but this is Chicago politics so I wouldn’t be surprised if she reverses the state Elections Board to cause trouble (because Illinois politics can be a bloodsport). If that happens, then what? What are those who seriously believe Cruz isn’t a "natural born citizen" trying to accomplish? Are they that desperate to get "their guy" on the ballot that they resort to legal chicanery? Or are they hoping Cruz will drop out of the race and send his delegates to "their guy"? These lawsuits come off as petty and misguided. There are better ways to spend money. Let the "natural born citizen" stuff lie and put Cruz on the ballot.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2016election; birther; canadian; constitution; cruz; donaldtrump; gop2016; ineligible; naturalborn; tedcruz
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1 posted on 02/19/2016 5:01:48 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Quagmire for cruz. good luck.


2 posted on 02/19/2016 5:03:45 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Kaslin

Four Supreme Court Cases Define Natural Born Citizen, Ted and Marco do not make the cut.

Should not take long to figure out.

3 posted on 02/19/2016 5:13:48 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: Kaslin

He may have every right to run, but there is plenty of ambiguity about whether he is eligible to actually serve if elected. That is why Trump has been urging Cruz to get it resolved now.


4 posted on 02/19/2016 5:13:51 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: Kaslin

Of course. He is a liberal left wing judge in Cook County. It will be thrown out.


5 posted on 02/19/2016 5:14:27 PM PST by MLL
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To: Kaslin

Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.

Obama told us he was born a British Subject.

Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?


6 posted on 02/19/2016 5:14:30 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: WENDLE

I want this settled in the most hostile courts possible. Those are the types of courts to worry about.


7 posted on 02/19/2016 5:15:25 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Souled_Out

Whoever that idiot wrote this didn’t do a thorough search and is full of it, and so are you.


8 posted on 02/19/2016 5:23:25 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Souled_Out
And btw Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida, which is the 23rd State
9 posted on 02/19/2016 5:27:39 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

To foreign nationals, acquiring their nationality as well as being afforded 14th amendment citizenship in the US.
Citizen, yes, but not a natural born citizen.
Ineligible.


10 posted on 02/19/2016 5:33:41 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin
Judge Maureen Ward Kirby set a March 1 court date to hear arguments on the motion to dismiss. Joyce, who works the midnight shift at a hospital pharmacy, told the judge he wasn't available for arguments before then because of work commitments. The Illinois primary is March 15 and early voting has already begun.

Despite the close timing, Joyce said it is worth letting his complaint play out.

"The nomination doesn't take place until July," Joyce said. "So if a determination is made after the primary that Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president then certainly it would be incumbent upon the Republican National Committee not allow the name of Ted Cruz to be entered at the convention in July."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/19/illinois-voter-court-challenge-ted-cruz-natural-born-citizen/80602506/

11 posted on 02/19/2016 5:33:50 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Kaslin

Another story that does not clarify the parents names on the voter rolls of Canada in the year he was born...Dual citizenship? Put America first? Answer the fact he was an anchor baby in Canada if not...This is all not going to be settled in one court case.


12 posted on 02/19/2016 5:46:02 PM PST by 3D-JOY (...don't forget to visit the FREEPATHON today!)
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To: Souled_Out
Here's the thing though: Chester A. Arthur was a British subject, and he still assumed office after Garfield was assassinated, and SCOTUS in the 1880s didn't do jack to resolve the issue. Hell, Arthur shouldn't have even been VP.

If SCOTUS didn't do nothing then, and nothing about Obama, what makes you think they're going to do something now about Cruz?

13 posted on 02/19/2016 5:50:09 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I like your clear reasoning here and in #6.


14 posted on 02/19/2016 5:50:51 PM PST by 3D-JOY (...don't forget to visit the FREEPATHON today!)
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To: Kaslin

This will not go well. They will drag it out until November.


15 posted on 02/19/2016 5:54:26 PM PST by Michael.SF. (That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' Cindy Sheehan")
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To: Kaslin

They don’t have standing to bring the suit. Recall what was said about anyone who tried on BHO.


16 posted on 02/19/2016 5:55:26 PM PST by freeonefrom (God bless America and our troops.)
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To: Kaslin
Technically a Canadian Citizen?

Not a technicality Ted....a fact. And to say you never knew? Ridiculous.

17 posted on 02/19/2016 5:57:40 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Chester A. Arthur destroyed all the evidence before he died, I don’t think it can be proven one way or the other.


18 posted on 02/19/2016 6:00:45 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

To non-citizen parents.


19 posted on 02/19/2016 6:01:46 PM PST by jstaff
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To: WENDLE

I don’t think this is a quamire. I’ve read Article II, sec. 1 of the constitution and it sayz nothing about being born on American soil and or born to two American citizen parents. This has never been adjudicated by the SCOTUS either. In fact, the SCOTUS continuously refused to take it.


20 posted on 02/19/2016 6:16:46 PM PST by servantboy777
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