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Fans of Solar Don’t Want Sun Shining on Toxic Waste (panels contain)
Rhino Times ^ | 2/18/16 | Mark Shiver

Posted on 02/19/2016 3:03:03 PM PST by Libloather

Solar panels contain toxic, hazardous materials and there are no regulations in North Carolina on how to dispose of them. Also, there are no plans in place to deal with what could happen if a storm destroyed a solar facility.

The Environmental Review Commission met last week and began a discussion about the toxic materials in solar panels, what to do with expired solar panels and what to do in the event of an accident or natural disaster involving a solar facility.

Chaired by Sen. Trudy Wade (R-Guilford), the commission heard from Tom Reeder, NC Department of Environmental Quality assistant secretary of the environment, who said there are 250 million pounds of solar panels in North Carolina.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; disney; environmentalism; globalwarming; power; snaildarter; solar; spottedowl; toxic; waste
Solar panels contain toxic materials, one of which is cadmium telluride. Rep. Mike Hager (R-Rutherfordton) said, "Cadmium telluride is one of the six most toxic materials known to humans."

Environmentalists will kill us all.

1 posted on 02/19/2016 3:03:03 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Better call Barone Sanitation.


2 posted on 02/19/2016 3:09:44 PM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: Libloather

Same issue with those composite wind turbine blades. Can’t burn, ‘em, can’t put them in anything but a hazardous waste landfill, only a fraction of them can be marketed as a pavement additive, and the only place in world that can recycle them is in Germany.

It’s estimated that Denmark will have 225,000 tonnes of blade waste by 2035.


3 posted on 02/19/2016 3:10:35 PM PST by digger48
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To: Libloather

I worked at inventing sputtered thin film cadmium silicon diarsenide back in the late ‘70s. recovering the elements in thin films and conductors, and recycling the metals to make new solar cells ought not to be rocket science. The substrates and structural frames ought not to be dangerous. Somebody is determined to chicken-little this issue and terrorize chemical ignoramuses here.


4 posted on 02/19/2016 3:24:56 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Libloather

Why not just pile it all up. That is what they do with the waist from the nuclear power plants.


5 posted on 02/19/2016 3:31:25 PM PST by Revel
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To: imardmd1
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Got to get it back, someday
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For tomorrow maybe you and me
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Come raise your voice

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6 posted on 02/19/2016 3:34:35 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: imardmd1

We just converted our house to solar. It makes sense here with 300+ days of sunshine and very high electric rates. If solar panels can be made to with stand the typhoons here then they should withstand a hurricane, or so I would think.

Chicken Little indeed.


7 posted on 02/19/2016 3:38:29 PM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: Fai Mao

What percentage of your project was paid for with subsidies?


8 posted on 02/19/2016 3:53:04 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Libloather

Panels lose efficiency yearly. They make some sense for very rural, low load situations. They certainly aren’t a panacea at this point. Without subsidies and emotions, solar is very disappointing.


9 posted on 02/19/2016 4:06:30 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

I don’t actually know.

The company owns the panels and I pay them a fixed monthly fee. They guarantee that the panels will provide the power for the house and do all the maintenance.

Note: Electricity prices on Guam are three to four times more than than average in the US. So it is not a normal market and makes solar cheaper by comparison. If we used AC in the whole house (1800 square feet)the power bill would be easily $400 to $500 a month.

Plus the power here is unreliable thanks to a power plant burning down so we have rolling black outs across the island.

It is not unusual for power to be out a couple of days after a typhoon so having the panels is useful then as well

This is not a normal place


10 posted on 02/19/2016 4:20:32 PM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: Fai Mao

We looked at large arrays, 2x3x4 tracking panel systems. With the subsidies it almost made sense. But we saved 25000 by not biting. Solar makes sense in low-load, rural situations.


11 posted on 02/19/2016 4:27:17 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: grey_whiskers

Where did the cadmium and tellurium come from?
Duh. The stuff was already here.


12 posted on 02/19/2016 4:39:50 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: gorush

How much tax have you paid in your lifetime? Want some back?


13 posted on 02/19/2016 4:40:09 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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14 posted on 02/19/2016 4:51:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Fai Mao; imardmd1
"We just converted our house to solar. It makes sense here with 300+ days of sunshine and very high electric rates. If solar panels can be made to with stand the typhoons here then they should withstand a hurricane, or so I would think."

Chicken Little indeed."

I've had some large PV modules on homebuilt mounts at more than 45-degrees (tilt) on a travel trailer through 110-mph+ wind gusts during winters (high elevation here). They're still mounted tight, fine and will probably work well for more than 25 years. With daily discharges at about an average of 10%, the low cost batteries (thick-plated Crowns) will probably last over 8 years.

With a self-install and careful choices in components, off-grid PV solar power can cost less than grid power as calculated over the lives of the components.


15 posted on 02/19/2016 5:58:34 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy")
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To: Fai Mao; imardmd1

I’ll be installing a permitted and inspected system without any subsidy for a house soon. Without a “professional” installation, it will be well worth it.


16 posted on 02/19/2016 6:00:29 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy")
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To: 1FreeAmerican

Oh, please, may I?


17 posted on 02/19/2016 6:19:44 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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