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Cognitive Dissonance and the Followers of Donald Trump
Townhall.com ^ | February 15, 2016 | Michael Brown

Posted on 02/15/2016 10:09:20 AM PST by Kaslin

When the legendary boxing promoter Bob Arum was challenged about the veracity of one of his past statements, he famously replied, "Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth."

This leads to the obvious question, "But Mr. Arum, what will you tell us tomorrow?"

There is something about Arum's line that reminds me of Donald Trump, except that: 1) Arum was not running for the office of the President of the United States; and 2) Trump could say the same thing that Arum did but it appears that many of his followers would say, "You see! He's not a politician. He tells the truth."

Have you ever seen the like with a political candidate? And who but Trump could boast that he could shoot someone in broad daylight in New York City and his followers would still follow him? Who but Trump would want to boast of such a thing?

By all fair accounts, Trump did not perform well in the South Carolina debate on Saturday night, but this didn't matter much to his followers, as evidenced by the Drudge Report poll which, as always, declared him the overwhelming winner.

So, when the crowd boos him for his vile behavior, that's just proof that the crowd has been stacked against him.

When competing candidates rightly confront his vacillating positions, they're branded liars, corrupt politicians, and worse, all to the delight of his followers.

"We need an Alpha male," they exclaim. "Trump will get things done."

As to how, exactly, he will do it, no one seems to know.

But be assured that, despite four Trump bankruptcies (which surely affected many people, even if Trump was not personally affected) and the failures of Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, The China Connection, Trump Casinos, Trump Steaks, Trump Magazine, and GoTrump.com, Donald Trump will get the job done.

He always does.

He only wins - as in wins, wins, wins.

And when he doesn't win (as in Iowa)? Actually, second was really first, since, we're told, the winner cheated. And his followers cheer him on.

But this is nothing to laugh about. The future of our country is at stake, especially with the sudden death of Antonin Scalia, which makes the question of the appointing of new Supreme Court justices all the more urgent.

Last August 26th - so, barely six months ago - Trump stated that his sister would make a "phenomenal" Supreme Court justice, despite her strong support for partial-birth abortion.

Now, after being challenged about what kind of justices he would appoint if president, Trump says that he was only joking about his past comments about his sister: "Just so you understand, I said it jokingly. My sister is a brilliant person, known as a brilliant person, but it's obviously a conflict."

Shades of Bob Arum.

"I was joking yesterday, but today I'm being serious."

Dear followers of Donald Trump, are you sure this is your man?

But it gets worse.

During the Saturday night debate in patriotic, pro-G. W. Bush South Carolina, Trump said that Bush lied about Iraq and claimed that he, Trump, was the only one to oppose the war in Iraq. In fact, at a debate last September he said, "You can check it out, check out — I'll give you 25 different stories."

When asked for proof of this on Sunday, he responded, "I wasn't a politician so people didn't write everything I said."

Really? No proof of 25 different stories you told us to check out? No documentation of your very outspoken opposition to the war? You spoke loudly and clearly back then but no one noticed it because you weren't a politician?

Unfortunately for Trump loyalists, Andrew Kaczynski has documented that "in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve Trump noted Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction and targeted Iraq strikes had little impact on their overall capabilities. The Donald said the best course might be against Iraq to 'carry the mission to its conclusion.'" (Kaczynski provides the exact quote.)

It wasn't until August of 2004 that Trump expressed clear opposition to the war, long after it had started and long after the problems with our engagement there had emerged.

This revelation led to the clever tweet from New York Post columnist Robert A. George, "Trump knew Iraq had WMDs before Bush lied abt Iraq having WMDs and followed Trump's advice to finish job in Iraq!"

In response to all this, I posted on Facebook and Twitter, "Trump could say tomorrow 'I've been lying about everything!' And his followers would say 'That's our man! He tells it like it is.'"

And how did some of his followers respond to my comment?

"So explain to me who is better than Trump?"

And, "No he wouldn't. Nobody is ideal, but you have it in for Trump. He is better than all of the socialists and other deceptive liars running."

And, "[people would] much rather give Trump the benefit of the doubt because he does not answer to any special interest groups and because he proves that you can fight the leftwing media and their strongest weapon 'political correctness'."

What makes this all the more disturbing, not to mention downright scary, is that a substantial percentage of his supporters profess to be evangelical Christians, and it still appears that there is almost nothing he could say or do that would dampen their support for him.

"After all," they lamely repeat, "we're not electing a pastor, we're electing a president."

And, if I might borrow a quote, "Yesterday he was lying, today he's telling the truth."

Let the voter beware.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; 2016election; 2016issues; donaldtrump; integrity; propagandadujour; tds; tedspacificpartners; usualsuspect; willthemudstick
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To: Kaslin
Mister trump's blaming of 9/11 on Dubya is wholly and completely unforgivable.

And, it goes to character (or in Mister trump's case, lack of same.)

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21 posted on 02/15/2016 10:32:29 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Kaslin

The Trump hysteria will continue on Free Republic, everyone knows that he is not a conservative, but the infatuation has nothing to do with his political philosophy, his record, or his understanding on issues. People are embracing the things that he says that they like, and ignoring all the rest.

He is the man in a red suit standing on the roof. He will slide down the chimney and deliver everything that we have ever wanted. Don’t forget to leave a plate of cookies and a glass of milk. Everyone believes.


22 posted on 02/15/2016 10:32:31 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Kaslin
But be assured that, despite four Trump bankruptcies (which surely affected many people, even if Trump was not personally affected) and the failures of Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, The China Connection, Trump Casinos, Trump Steaks, Trump Magazine, and GoTrump.com, Donald Trump will get the job done.

Off the top of my head I'll compare that to the failure of the GOPe (even with a GOP President and/or control of the Congress) to get a handle on the border, control spending, control entitlements, do something about Obamacare, stop giving away the store to illegal aliens and nominate proven conservative judges.

Compared to that Trump looks small time. At least he's had as many successes as failures.

23 posted on 02/15/2016 10:32:57 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: centurion316
The Trump hysteria will continue on Free Republic, everyone knows that he is not a conservative,

Who is, outside of maybe Cruz?

24 posted on 02/15/2016 10:33:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ifinnegan

“But it has reached a point where Trump supporters actually defend him by saying he doesn’t know what he is talking about!”

Jeez, it’s like arguing with libtards.

IMO, there are many issues that Trump has never thought through.

His entire business career, he has been hanging with dims because they were the ones he could bribe. He heard their stupidity at cocktail parties, and he went along to get along.

He seems to be making a lot of progress in getting things straight.


25 posted on 02/15/2016 10:33:30 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dragnet2
Someone tell this moron this is why Trump's support is historic. To take our country back from the corrupt politicians who created this epic disaster and steady decline.

My thought is that Trump is a stop gap measure that may or may not prevent an all out armed revolt or civil war, an uprising of a totally pissed off citizenry. It's getting that serious.

26 posted on 02/15/2016 10:34:54 AM PST by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)
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To: seowulf
I guess the point is that Trump sometimes tells the truth...

Sometimes. Yesterday? Today? The day after tomorrow?

Sorry but I don't vote for people like that, ever!

27 posted on 02/15/2016 10:35:02 AM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: Kaslin

I did not read that article. I don’t feel obligated to read every article put out by Trump haters, again, slamming those of us support Trump.

You would think that these people would address the issues Trump CAMPAIGNS on, issues that would not be even mentioned were it not for Trump, so, in a sense, are Trump’s issues. Instead, they ransack the last 20 years, cherry picking and pulling things out of context to prove their point.


28 posted on 02/15/2016 10:36:28 AM PST by odawg
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To: dragnet2

Had the Republicans supported their candidate in the last two elections there would be no problem with getting a conservative into the Supreme Court when the time came.

However, I have read so many who would not vote for the Republican candidate because of one reason or another they did not fit the perfect conservative mold, and we got Obama.

About to do the same thing? Then you will get Clinton or Sanders and when Ginsberg retires another leftist will be picked.


29 posted on 02/15/2016 10:37:00 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Kaslin

I’m risking everything on the fact that PC must die and we need a wall. We’ll Trump destroyed PC so I am rewarding him with my vote for the Presidency. I am gambling we get a wall. Anything else is negotiable.


30 posted on 02/15/2016 10:37:47 AM PST by central_va
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To: dfwgator
Who is, outside of maybe Cruz?

I agree, but none of the rest have any support here on FR. BTW, Rubio's Senate record is almost identical to Cruz, but I have the opinion that he is a faux conservative much like Trump. Rubio has very little support, yet Trump has them swooning in ecstasy. Very odd.

31 posted on 02/15/2016 10:39:11 AM PST by centurion316
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To: upsdriver
It's getting that serious.

You can tell by observing the wild D.C./MSM Tokyo Rose style lies and propaganda.

Another decade or so of the federation frauds controlling American leadership, America is done. There will be no bringing it back or making it great. It will be lost.

32 posted on 02/15/2016 10:39:19 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kaslin

“As to how, exactly, he will do it, no one seems to know.”

Of all the bogus arguments flying around, that one takes the cake.

Any person with a three-digit IQ can see how those things can and must be done.

It would be stupid of Trump to waste time belaboring the obvious. When some left-wing, Satan-fellating lump of festering dog meat asks him “exactly how” he would see that our immigration laws are enforced,” he should say to him (or her), “What are you, a f***ing idiot? Security, get this moron out of here. And throw her to the sidewalk, vewwy woughly.”


33 posted on 02/15/2016 10:39:53 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m no psychologist but I think people are pissed off.


34 posted on 02/15/2016 10:40:29 AM PST by McGruff (Flexibility is a good thing, but you should not be flexible on core principles - Ted Cruz)
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To: Kaslin
Oh, that citizens had not allowed the so-called “progressive” movement (whose ideas are, in fact, regressive), to dominate and control the policies of its federal government for decades! By allowing that bit of chicanery by politicians in both Parties to prevail, liberty is endangered, and tyranny everywhere can be seen.

The people, in their anger and rebellion to abuses of their Creator-endowed rights and liberties, must be careful not to heed the call of artful individuals whose solutions are not founded in the provisions of "the people's" Constitution and its limitations on power in government.

James Madison’s words of wisdom, as recorded in THE FEDERALIST essays, quoted below, make for good reading as we examine matters during this election year. A few are quoted below:

“The propensity of all single and numerous assemblies (is) to yield to the impulse of sudden and violent passions, and to be seduced by factious leaders into intemperate and pernicious resolutions.” - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

“An elective despotism was not the government we fought for; but one in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among the several bodies of magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"If it be asked what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer, the genius of the whole system, the nature of just and constitutional laws, and above all the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America, a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it.” - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

“This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.” - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

“Every new regulation concerning commerce or revenue; or in any manner affecting the value of the different species of property, presents a new harvest to those who watch the change and can trace its consequences; a harvest reared not by themselves but by the toils and cares of the great body of their fellow citizens. This is a state of things in which it may be said with some truth that laws are made for the few not for the many.” - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

“It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what is will be tomorrow.” - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

Note particularly the following words of wisdom from Federalist No. 63:

“As the cool and deliberate sense of the community ought, in all governments, and actually will, in all free governments, ultimately prevail over the views of its rulers; so there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career, and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice, and truth can regain their authority over the public mind?” - Federalist Papers, No. 63, 1788


“Although all men are born free, and all nations might be so, yet too true it is, that slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? That because the people may betray themselves, they ought to give themselves up, blindfold, to those who have an interest in betraying them? Rather conclude that the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it. . . .” - James Madison

35 posted on 02/15/2016 10:40:31 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: dragnet2

“Another decade or so of the federation frauds controlling American leadership, America is done. There will be no bringing it back or making it great. It will be lost.”

You’re a decade off. It has to be done now.


36 posted on 02/15/2016 10:41:04 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ifinnegan

BTTT


37 posted on 02/15/2016 10:41:51 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin
AND for Trump's next act, threatening to run third party if he has any trouble with the Republican party.

He's probably going to lose SC, so he's going to cry foul. What a baby.

38 posted on 02/15/2016 10:42:28 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Beowulf9

Republicans aided and abetted in the American decline for pete sakes. You’d have better luck juggling flaming chainsaws while riding a unicycle than seeing me voting for a Republican other than Trump.


39 posted on 02/15/2016 10:42:51 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kaslin

Is “Cognitive Dissonance” anything like Insanity? You know, like repeatedly voting for the Republicans and repeatedly seeing them screw you over?


40 posted on 02/15/2016 10:44:11 AM PST by EDINVA
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