Skip to comments.Cognitive Dissonance and the Followers of Donald Trump
Posted on 02/15/2016 10:09:20 AM PST by Kaslin
When the legendary boxing promoter Bob Arum was challenged about the veracity of one of his past statements, he famously replied, "Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth."
This leads to the obvious question, "But Mr. Arum, what will you tell us tomorrow?"
There is something about Arum's line that reminds me of Donald Trump, except that: 1) Arum was not running for the office of the President of the United States; and 2) Trump could say the same thing that Arum did but it appears that many of his followers would say, "You see! He's not a politician. He tells the truth."
Have you ever seen the like with a political candidate? And who but Trump could boast that he could shoot someone in broad daylight in New York City and his followers would still follow him? Who but Trump would want to boast of such a thing?
By all fair accounts, Trump did not perform well in the South Carolina debate on Saturday night, but this didn't matter much to his followers, as evidenced by the Drudge Report poll which, as always, declared him the overwhelming winner.
So, when the crowd boos him for his vile behavior, that's just proof that the crowd has been stacked against him.
When competing candidates rightly confront his vacillating positions, they're branded liars, corrupt politicians, and worse, all to the delight of his followers.
"We need an Alpha male," they exclaim. "Trump will get things done."
As to how, exactly, he will do it, no one seems to know.
But be assured that, despite four Trump bankruptcies (which surely affected many people, even if Trump was not personally affected) and the failures of Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, The China Connection, Trump Casinos, Trump Steaks, Trump Magazine, and GoTrump.com, Donald Trump will get the job done.
He always does.
He only wins - as in wins, wins, wins.
And when he doesn't win (as in Iowa)? Actually, second was really first, since, we're told, the winner cheated. And his followers cheer him on.
But this is nothing to laugh about. The future of our country is at stake, especially with the sudden death of Antonin Scalia, which makes the question of the appointing of new Supreme Court justices all the more urgent.
Last August 26th - so, barely six months ago - Trump stated that his sister would make a "phenomenal" Supreme Court justice, despite her strong support for partial-birth abortion.
Now, after being challenged about what kind of justices he would appoint if president, Trump says that he was only joking about his past comments about his sister: "Just so you understand, I said it jokingly. My sister is a brilliant person, known as a brilliant person, but it's obviously a conflict."
Shades of Bob Arum.
"I was joking yesterday, but today I'm being serious."
Dear followers of Donald Trump, are you sure this is your man?
But it gets worse.
During the Saturday night debate in patriotic, pro-G. W. Bush South Carolina, Trump said that Bush lied about Iraq and claimed that he, Trump, was the only one to oppose the war in Iraq. In fact, at a debate last September he said, "You can check it out, check out — I'll give you 25 different stories."
When asked for proof of this on Sunday, he responded, "I wasn't a politician so people didn't write everything I said."
Really? No proof of 25 different stories you told us to check out? No documentation of your very outspoken opposition to the war? You spoke loudly and clearly back then but no one noticed it because you weren't a politician?
Unfortunately for Trump loyalists, Andrew Kaczynski has documented that "in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve Trump noted Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction and targeted Iraq strikes had little impact on their overall capabilities. The Donald said the best course might be against Iraq to 'carry the mission to its conclusion.'" (Kaczynski provides the exact quote.)
It wasn't until August of 2004 that Trump expressed clear opposition to the war, long after it had started and long after the problems with our engagement there had emerged.
This revelation led to the clever tweet from New York Post columnist Robert A. George, "Trump knew Iraq had WMDs before Bush lied abt Iraq having WMDs and followed Trump's advice to finish job in Iraq!"
In response to all this, I posted on Facebook and Twitter, "Trump could say tomorrow 'I've been lying about everything!' And his followers would say 'That's our man! He tells it like it is.'"
And how did some of his followers respond to my comment?
"So explain to me who is better than Trump?"
And, "No he wouldn't. Nobody is ideal, but you have it in for Trump. He is better than all of the socialists and other deceptive liars running."
And, "[people would] much rather give Trump the benefit of the doubt because he does not answer to any special interest groups and because he proves that you can fight the leftwing media and their strongest weapon 'political correctness'."
What makes this all the more disturbing, not to mention downright scary, is that a substantial percentage of his supporters profess to be evangelical Christians, and it still appears that there is almost nothing he could say or do that would dampen their support for him.
"After all," they lamely repeat, "we're not electing a pastor, we're electing a president."
And, if I might borrow a quote, "Yesterday he was lying, today he's telling the truth."
Let the voter beware.
Trump for President. All the rest of the candidates are worthless in protecting our Country from a dictatorship. Proof???? What in hell have have the Republicans done to stop King Obama, the communists black Muslim terrorists.
Well, you see that’s the whole thing in a nutshell.
Every time Trump opens his mouth, it might be a lie.
Every time a professional politician opens his mouth, it IS a lie.
I guess the point is that Trump sometimes tells the truth but the rest don’t.
Someone tell this moron this is why Trump's support is historic. To take our country back from the corrupt politicians who created this epic disaster and steady decline.
Gezuz. Could this not be any clearer?
No responsible gun owner or second amendment stalwart says anything like that. He's also stated he would 'go vigilante' like the movie Death Wish.
In 2011 Trump made the same argument that Rubio made in the debate in response to Trump’s Code a Pink moment.
Trump on if he were told by intelligence agencies of Saddam WMDs
I would have been a lot more certain that he had those weapons of mass destruction. He [Saddam] obviously overplayed his hand. All he had to do was say was, “Come in and take a look,” and he would still be running that country.
But it has reached a point where Trump supporters actually defend him by saying he doesn’t know what he is talking about!
Then, you've got a story on why we need Donald Trump. He's the only candidate that can beat her.
Michael Brown, three quarters of a million people gave Trump more than twice the votes of the second-place finisher in the Drudge poll (and about five other polls as well).
The anti-establishment, anti-inside-the-beltway folks are voting you and your ilk "outa here."
Put your pencil down now.
“He’s also stated he would ‘go vigilante’ like the movie Death Wish.”
Fine with me. Whatever it takes to destroy the demonrats. The country can only resume operations as a representative republic after they are out of the picture.
Is this the Michael Brown from Ferguson? Sounds like it.
It appears that, even though he is still just a candidate and not the President, Donald Trump’s foreign policy, the Trump Doctrine, is being implemented on the world sage! Consider.
Trump formally announced his candidacy for the presidency in the 2016 election on June 16, 2015.
He sat down with Bill O’Reilly in June 16, 2015 and said:
“I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth,” Trump told the Fox News Channel star. “Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left.”
The Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War began on 30 September 2015, following a formal request by the Syrian government for military help against rebel and jihadist groups.
Around December 17, 2015, Putin offered high praise for the billionaire businessman-turned-Republican presidential front-runner on Thursday during an annual news conference with reporters.
“He is a bright and talented person without any doubt,” Putin said, adding that Trump is “an outstanding and talented personality.”
And in remarks closely mirroring Trump’s assessment of the campaign, the Russian leader called Trump “the absolute leader of the presidential race,” according to the Russian TASS news agency.
And politicians dont lie? When has that become a truth?
100% of the time we can be assured what a politician will do.
No so with someone like Trump, or Carson for that matter.
So what have politicians done these last years? Did they lie to us? The last election, did they lie to us to get into office? What did they do after they lied to get into office? Did they continue to lie?
So your choice, get knowingly habitual liars into office, or just maybe get somebody else into office that has actually done something with himself and his wealth.
Too many Freepers are locked into the political game. Trump supporters, like myself, are done with the games. Yes, we want to see heads roll. It takes guts to make heads roll. Trump has guts.
“...By all fair accounts, Trump did not perform well in the South Carolina debate on Saturday night, but this didn’t matter much to his followers, as evidenced by the Drudge Report poll which, as always, declared him the overwhelming winner...”
Where did all the votes go from the Trump dissenters? Where are the “fair accounts” people?
Sounds like what we've been getting from the Republican party for quite a few years now. The list of broken campaign promises is long and repetitive.
The cognitive dissonance is with those still have any trust at all in any but a small number of Republicans in Congress and the GOPe.
For Michael Brown: Per your writing, Trump “failed” so much that he’s a billionaire.....
He’s got my vote.....
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