I do recall Colin Powell in from the U.N. making the case we knew exactly where the WMDs were located.
Then years later W. said there were no WMDs.
Posted on 02/14/2016 3:52:35 AM PST by reaganaut1
I feel like we’re back in the pre-Iowa period when no one could figure out whether Donald Trump skipping the Iowa debate would hurt him–by the normal rules, of course it would hurt him; by the Trump rules, it wouldn’t make a difference and maybe even help (by demonstrating strength).
By the normal rules, Trump embracing a blood libel about George W. Bush (he knew there were no WMD in Iraq), saying Planned Parenthood does great things, and often swinging wildly and angrily would hurt him a week out from a primary in Bush-friendly, hawkish, socially conservative South Carolina.
But we’ll see. Certainly Trump’s behavior reinforces the idea that he’s disruptor and not just another politician, and Republican voters might not mind so much that one of the candidates is outspokenly anti-Iraq war (even if he takes it too far). Trump continues to be able to interrupt everyone else with impunity and act the Big Man on stage, with no one really able or willing to assert themselves against him.
Jeb is trying the hardest. He continues to improve–he seems a bit more relaxed and authoritative every debate– and did better against Trump than ever before. But some of his strongest moments were defending his family and although that is honorable, I’m not sure how much that gets him. He has still not figured out how to clearly best Trump, even when he has the better of the argument.
Rubio was very good. A little sharper, a little more conversational. He probably got in more telling jabs against Trump in the Iraq debate than Bush did (although I doubt anyone cares much that Bush was enforcing U.N. resolutions).
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Trump had to have doctors explain what PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION entails, his lawyers couldn’t understand the term for him?
Thick is as thick does. Geesh.
I like Carson’s pragmatism. He needs to be a lot more aggressive in these debates. Seize the moment... that sort of thing. The main problem I had with last night is it was bad television. Looked bad and probably didn’t help get any Indies. Carson and Kasich were the most measured and looked the most presidential. Bush looked feckless and felt he had to jump in to defend his family’s honor, however, it really wasn’t necessary. When your opponent is digging his grave with his teeth, you let him continue on and don’t interrupt or talk over him. Rubio had a better debate than last time, but the exchange with Cruz looked moronic. Cruz keeps letting himself get down in the mud and looks bad for it. These guys really should just ignore the baits and tell us what they are actually FOR and let us decide on the merits. I for one stand firmly behind Reagan’s 11th Commandment. If you need to attack, my God, there was a Demonrat debate the other night, plus a crapload of emails dumped by the State Department (more top secret ones) on Shrillary.... fire away boys. One of them is going to have to face off with her, or Bernie, or Biden... tell us why you’d be better! Enough of the crap. Seize the moment and ignore the question. If the mods say you didn’t answer, you get another 30 seconds to expand on your views. And let’s get some specifics out there! Last night was just painful to watch. Trump looked OK, but it’s clear that when he gets livid, his mouth runs faster than his brain. Looked bad. My wife kept yelling for him to shut up already. And she likes him...
By only business, I assume you meant 3% of their business, right?
About 40% of their work is STDs, about 35% contraception, cancer 10%.
Since you seem to be woefully misinformed, I might suggest talking to a girl 18-25. Many use pp for their birth control.
No one care what you think NR. You showed your hand with your “hate Trump” issue. Now you are just more media clowns mouthing the standard Establishment noise
Carson hasn’t got a prayer and really doesn’t belong there.
Kasich is the most leftist of them all and is ignored because he’s in the low single digits in any national polls.
I miss the Cruz and Trump detente. I wish they’d both run more positive campaigns re: their opponents. But they are the only two real choices we have—even though neither is perfect.
Trump is not pro-life for rape/incest babies, and those babies are just as real as any other
I agree with you, I have a feeling Trump even agrees with you. This group in Congress cannot even get PP defunded????? Really!! How about restrictions on abortions after 19 wks.??? Most western countries have this restriction. Yet here we are we MUST elect the person who has been pro-life their entire life! I am beginning to suspect this is a campaign issue to keep the voters voting for you, I’m not so sure that those who claim pro-life really want to make progress. They have the house and the senate, and yet, the single issue they would probably get consensus on, is still a campaign point?
If Trump really said that aside from abortions, he supports Planned Parenthood, then he’s brilliant.
PP falls apart without the abortion revenue. Dude can come out as pro-life, extoll the virtues of affordable care for female reproductive rights, and know the position is untenable for PP, and further know that they can’t come after Trump after saying he supports them.
IF Trump really said that he was for PP, but against abortion. Scary smart.
I do recall Colin Powell in from the U.N. making the case we knew exactly where the WMDs were located.
Then years later W. said there were no WMDs.
Right now Trump is correct. We are not capable of fighting a two war scenario.
I do agree Carson’s prospects are very dim. And, yes Kasich has moderated quite a bit from his Congresscritter days. But my point is, it was bad TV when those two are made to look like the winners when the other four are trying to see who applied the most Androgel yesterday morning.
See post #80.
I can tell you right now....we could have a die hard conservative president like Cruz, a majority republican house, a majority republican senate and you will NEVER see a bill that defunds PP on his desk. They ALL know defunding PP would result in an EXPLOSION of welfare recipients and they don’t want to pay for them plus you’re getting more dimocrat voters. These so called conservative candidates will bluster around keeping the evangelicals stringing along but they will never defund it.
If any of them were serious about saving babies they would break bad on the welfare system. You can have ONE baby paid for but a second will only be paid for AFTER a voluntary tubal ligation, period, end of story.
Here's a prediction I wrote on September 13, 2001 about what was going to happen. I didn't know Vietnam II would be fought in Iraq, but I was pretty sure that we would blow sh*t up, demonstrate we could take casualties (so we looked serious) without conquering the enemy (so we didn't look mean) and wind up worse off, which is exactly what happened.
A punitive expedition (which is how Afghanistan started) was the minimum acceptable response. IF we had killed Bin Ladin and his team at Tora Bora in December 2001, success could have been declared and it would have been over.
The necessary for victory was the conquest of Arabia and Pakistan. Sounds big, I know, but certainly smaller than the conquest of Japan and Germany. Yes, the Soviets did a lot to Germany, but we could have had India's legions for the Pakistan part.
But a 80-division expeditionary force, mostly white and all Western, grinding little brown men to dust and re-educating their children was always beyond the imagination of the Bush family and their crew.
That left him with the need to do "something" bigger than Special Forces on horseback chasing out the Taliban and smaller than a war to extirpate the cancer that is politicized Sunni Islam.
Saddam WAS wearing a sign that said "kick me", and had been for years, but he was an entrepreneur of brutality with a keen sense of survival, so it's certain he and his army could have been bought for the march on Riyadh.
Bush thought small at a time when big thinking was a necessity, and the subsequent disasters are entirely the result of this failure. His pathetic embrace of "enforcing UN resolutions" as casus belli only made failure more certain.
It disgusts me that there are Republican candidates who are not made physically ill by the magnitude of our sacrifices for nothing in Iraq.
For after all, even if the fantasy of a multicultural, peaceful, feminist Iraq and Afghanistan had come true (impossible though that was), our real enemies in Riyadh and Islamabad would still sleep soundly in their beds, as they do to this day.
Yeah I was hoping the Gop was going to defund PP but they didn’t. So I am unhappy about it so I don’t agree with Trump on that. 50/50 on his Iraq comments because it was one thing I supported that Bush did. But I see Trump’s perspective since I debated people who felt him in for years. But that aside, I still support him.
I think the statement is technically correct in that context but it is an extremely unfortunate circumstance when history shows that we did in fact win two wars inside of four years’ time. However, we couldn’t have done it without tons of help.
Trump is opposed to their abortion business. PP defunds itself if he recommend that government only support the family planning mission.
Trump knows without abortion, PP folds and he doesn’t have to be for or against it, and neither does the GOP.
OK>>I looked. You are giving the numbers that planned parenthood gives out. Please. They count the visit of a woman 3 or 4 times. If they come in for an abortion, they council on birth control, STD and cancer thus counting that same person 4 times. The bulk of their revenue is derived from abortion.
Well that’s a interesting strategy. Abortion and selling baby parts is the backbone of PP. I hope he does abolish them as they are no good and into eugenics.
The next time the war will be mostly over before we can get geared up and deployed.
Mrs Bush is a nonagenarian,she’s 90.
It reminded me of the times the Kennedys would roll old Rose,in her wheelchair,out on the porch for the press to take pics.
It was pathetic.
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I think the vast majority of Americans still have no idea how gruesome the actual partial birth abortion procedures are. I think a lot of people would change their minds about supporting it, if they really heard the gory details of how it is actually done and how well-developed the child is at the time.
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