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Turkey Shells Aleppo, Says "Massive Escalation" In Syria Imminent As Saudis Ready Airstrikes
Zerohedge ^ | 02/13/2016 | Tyler Durdin

Posted on 02/13/2016 10:50:27 AM PST by Rusty0604

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To: mvonfr

We have to agree to disagree. The Russian air defense systems have no depth and are not out of range of several weapon systems that could suppress them. And the Russian airfields in Syria also. And, worse yet, they will be isolated there, with no significant logistic link even by air, if the Turks get serious.


81 posted on 02/13/2016 12:05:31 PM PST by buwaya
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To: dp0622
Just FYI... There are two types generally used in a nuke delivery, Air Burst, and Ground burst. Both have benefits and and outcomes
An Air burst (1500-200ft)will give a greater diameter and much less fallout, and would be used against a city or troops in the field
A Ground burst gives a much smaller area and would be used for underground bunkers, but because of the amount soil and debris blown high into the atmosphere has much more fallout
82 posted on 02/13/2016 12:10:45 PM PST by Robe (yo)
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To: dp0622

You don’t want to know what’s coming. Governments getting rid of their debts by killing those stupid enough to be holding their debt notes. The military is just the tool to get the job done. Film at 11.


83 posted on 02/13/2016 12:12:45 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: ryderann

They finished the White House shelter about a year ago, as I remember.


84 posted on 02/13/2016 12:13:25 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

True, I have seen some reports of the aftermath but not on the MSM.


85 posted on 02/13/2016 12:15:01 PM PST by Rusty0604 (1q)
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To: Robe

i dont mean to pester you, but an averaged sized airblast, how many miles would be no man’s land for years as opposed to ground blast?


86 posted on 02/13/2016 12:16:45 PM PST by dp0622
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To: mvonfr

Have a look at the map. The Turks are just @ 70km from Latakia, where the Russian logistical base is, as well as their principal airfield and presumably their air defense systems.
The Turks have 100+ rocket and missile systems with >100km range, including US ATACM, which with 300km range can hit anywhere in Northern Syria up to the Lebanese border.
And, more to the point, Turkey can easily get a lot closer very quickly seeing as they have 1000+ tanks and have easy logistics to mount an offensive to grab Latakia. Or they don’t need to get there, just close enough to put it in field artillery range.
The Syrian-Russian position is strategically precarious.


87 posted on 02/13/2016 12:24:34 PM PST by buwaya
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To: dp0622

Wikki has a good article here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions

Just remember we were walking around at ground Zero at Hiroshima just weeks later


88 posted on 02/13/2016 12:25:49 PM PST by Robe (yo)
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To: justa-hairyape

“After the Islamist leaders of Iran were ensured that they can freely do business with the rest of the world thanks to the White House’s efforts in removing the United Nations Security Council’s economic sanctions, the ruling clerics are now turning against the US and escalating their efforts to humiliate the US.

By getting the rest of the world en masse to pay Iran with currencies other than the dollar for its oil and gas sales, Iranian leaders hope this will subsequently lead to increases in US interest rates and American product prices in the long-term given Iran has the second largest gas and fourth largest oil reserves worldwide.

For their part, the Russians, Indians, Chinese and Europeans appear to be more than happy to fulfill Iran’s wish and pay the Islamist state of Iran with their country’s currency rather than the dollar in hopes of profiting from an opening Iranian market.

The Obama administration has been silent — hoping appeasement might change Iran’s attitude — but the mullahs’ currency war against the United States goes on.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/261799/mullahs-war-dollar-dr-majid-rafizadeh


89 posted on 02/13/2016 12:28:30 PM PST by Rusty0604 (1q)
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To: Rusty0604
It ain't pretty


90 posted on 02/13/2016 12:29:38 PM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: dp0622

“anyone know if 2 or 3 hundred nuke are exchanged, if that’s a planet killer, or is that just the movies?”

Well, over about 25 years close to 2000 were set off worldwide and we barely noticed. A few hundred would devastate the countries who played, and the others wouldn’t notice much except the things they get from us would kinda be gone for a while.
I doubt the southern hemisphere would even notice if nobody told them.

As a fun aside, the number of people murdered by government in the last century was around 260 million. Not killed in wars and air raid, but simply the basic definition of murder if an individual did it. That is roughly the estimate of dead on a normal US/Russia exchange.

So the 1900s basically showed us a slow motion nuclear war. We, and the planet would survive it easily. Movies like “on the beach” were pure Science Fiction horror and that’s about it.


91 posted on 02/13/2016 12:29:57 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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92 posted on 02/13/2016 12:31:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Rusty0604

— Kerry is playing checkers —

That’s giving him too much credit. More like Kerry is playing Tiddly Winks.


93 posted on 02/13/2016 12:33:55 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: House Atreides

That’s what the S-400s are for. Very formidable.


94 posted on 02/13/2016 12:34:53 PM PST by zek157
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To: buwaya

“Turks can also attack the Soviet airbases in Syria”

In 1970, referring to German bases as Nazi bases would make one sound ...uninformed at best. The USSR ended about 25 years ago except for a few people.

We all miss the cold war days, we really do. But you need to let it go. It isn’t good for you to live in the past. As for Turk rocketry, you might want to check with who is the master of rocket warfare there. It isn’t Turkey. The minute Turkey launches a rocket at Latakia, almost all of Turkey instantly becomes an S400 enforced no fly zone.


95 posted on 02/13/2016 12:36:34 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Rusty0604

Debt notes are debt notes. All issued by the true axis of evil. And they will destroy civilization once again. Time to live with the bats and draw paintings of the colorful skies on the cave walls.


96 posted on 02/13/2016 12:38:35 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Rusty0604

Debt notes are debt notes. All issued by the true axis of evil. And they will destroy civilization once again. Time to live with the bats and draw paintings of the colorful skies on the cave walls.


97 posted on 02/13/2016 12:38:36 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: DesertRhino

incredible stats!! several thousand!!

yeah, i guess all those nukes in the dessert didn’t destroy the US.

number of civilians killed by government is horrifying.


98 posted on 02/13/2016 12:38:45 PM PST by dp0622
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To: Robe

we were!!!??


99 posted on 02/13/2016 12:39:13 PM PST by dp0622
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To: immadashell
The infographic below seeks to make sense of the tangled web of alliances and military support in Syria and Iraq, between local fighting groups and outside countries. Within the infographic, light green indicates diplomatic support and dark green indicates direct military support. On the other hand, orange indicates diplomatic opposition, and red represents direct aggressive military action.

As well, it is important to note that this graphic shows official diplomatic and military support rather than covert operations or unofficial military support.

Source: http://www.conflict-news.com/infographic-foreign-involvement-in-syria-and-iraq/

100 posted on 02/13/2016 12:41:22 PM PST by matt1234 (Note to GOPe lurkers: I and thousands like me will NEVER vote for Jeb Bush)
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