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Iowa Democrats stonewalling on vote totals, but past numbers were available
Fox News ^ | February 9, 2015 | Howard Kurtz

Posted on 02/09/2016 12:30:51 PM PST by McGruff

After the ridiculously close squeaker in the Iowa caucuses, the state's Democratic Party said it couldn't release the raw vote totals for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

That simply isn't how they do business, party officials insisted.

Even after they audited the results this week, Iowa Democratic officials would say only that Clinton won 49.84 percent of the vote and Sanders 49.59 percent, reducing her margin slightly to a quarter of a point.

Sanders has called for the raw vote totals to be released. The state party says that's not the way it conducts the caucuses. And the press has pretty much let the matter drop.

But it turns out that hasn't been the practice in past elections. Here are the raw vote totals for Iowa's 2008 Democratic caucus:

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: Iowa; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2016election; arkansas; berniesanders; election2016; hillary; hillaryclinton; hitlery; iowa; jimwebb; newyork; shelies; vermont; virginia; wipewater
Come on Bernie. Don't let them get away with this. Fight like a socialist.
1 posted on 02/09/2016 12:30:51 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Pat Caddell was so upset about this yesterday. The Dems lied and said it’s their “policy” not to release numbers. Then he produced a paper showing the actual number of Dem votes in 2012.

He was so angry to have been lied to that he was shaking.

Two things: (1) Caddell needs to come over from the Dark Side already. (2) Iowa is definitely trying to hid something. A great way to start the election.


2 posted on 02/09/2016 12:36:13 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: McGruff

Something tells me maybe she lost those “win by 5 points” total..........but I don’t know


3 posted on 02/09/2016 12:38:37 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: MayflowerMadam

It is Hillary’s way.

Lie. Cheat. Steal.
Get paid for her body.


4 posted on 02/09/2016 12:38:48 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Pat Caddell was so upset about this yesterday. The Dems lied and said it’s their “policy” not to release numbers. Then he produced a paper showing the actual number of Dem votes in 2012.

Pat Caddell knows a thing or two about the Iowa Caucus. When he engineered Jimmy Carter's second place finish in '76, it paved the way to the nomination.
5 posted on 02/09/2016 12:47:29 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Imagine if Bernie creams Hillary in New Hampshire then wins Iowa on a recount.


6 posted on 02/09/2016 12:47:52 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Mandatory death penalty for voter fraud?


7 posted on 02/09/2016 12:53:24 PM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay in the U.S is like paying ransom to kidnappers- an incentive for more)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The place to look for voter fraud is in precincts that hold back their ballot boxes... until they know how many ‘extra’ vote to add...


8 posted on 02/09/2016 12:54:48 PM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay in the U.S is like paying ransom to kidnappers- an incentive for more)
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To: McGruff
The final count reported by the Iowa Democrat party, after their own review, is

Clinton 700.47 state delegate equivalents (SDEs)
Sanders 696.92 SDEs.

Their "recount" led to a net change of less than 1 SDE.

Clinton Win Shrinks, Sanders Still Reviewing

9 posted on 02/09/2016 1:02:36 PM PST by MUDDOG
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Hillary is counting the hanging chads in Iowa with her high power attorney husband Slick.


10 posted on 02/09/2016 1:06:44 PM PST by FreedBird (y)
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To: McGruff

It wouldn’t matter because Mrs. Bill is a shoo-in SC.


11 posted on 02/09/2016 2:19:34 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: GOPJ

Actually the American people, particularly those in “the democracy,” laugh when fraud is alleged.


12 posted on 02/09/2016 2:20:49 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: GOPJ

“The place to look for voter fraud is in precincts that hold back their ballot boxes... until they know how many extra votes to add...”

When I was working elections that was one thing that we were warned about. Early voting is open to stunning voter fraud, and absentee voting is even worse. Too much time with votes “sitting around” waiting to connect with Election Day votes. Frequently, absentee votes aren’t even counted unless a race is close and they might make a difference. Also, Dems are notorious for completely ignoring military absentee votes.


13 posted on 02/09/2016 2:51:00 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Romans 8:38-39)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Early voting is open to stunning voter fraud, and absentee voting is even worse.

You're right Madam...

14 posted on 02/10/2016 11:50:50 AM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay in the U.S is like paying ransom to kidnappers- an incentive for more)
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To: Theodore R.
The “Establishments” - both of 'em - laugh about fraud. But if we lobby successfully for prison time for those in engage in voter fraud, they'll fight us.
15 posted on 02/10/2016 11:54:05 AM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay in the U.S is like paying ransom to kidnappers- an incentive for more)
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