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Cruz: “There is no stronger advocate for legal immigration in the U.S. Senate than I am” (H1B)
Hot Air ^ | April 30, 2015

Posted on 02/09/2016 9:25:27 AM PST by xzins

Via the Weekly Standard, he's not saying anything here that he hasn't said before. He supports immigration reform, but not comprehensive immigration reform - only a piecemeal security-first approach will work, the same view now taken by Marco Rubio. But Cruz fans who haven't paid attention to him on this issue may assume, incorrectly but understandably, that he naturally takes the most conservative position that an electable Republican presidential candidate can take. Not so: It's Scott Walker(!) who's staked out the right side of the field by demanding that American wages be a variable when considering target numbers for legal immigrants, hinting that maybe legal immigration levels need to drop rather than rise. Walker's defenders argue that he's not saying anything controversial there; of course you'd want to know how a certain level of immigration will affect what American workers are paid. His break from the rest of the field is a matter of emphasis, not a matter of introducing something new into the debate.

Fair enough, but it's interesting to watch Ted Cruz, Mr. True Conservative, talk about this subject at length and not provide the same emphasis. Watch below from around 44:00 to 50:00 and then again at 1:29:00 to 1:36:00. In 13 or so minutes, wages don't come up. On the contrary, Cruz's emphasis is on the fact that he wants more legal immigration, at least among better educated immigrants who might qualify for an H-1B visa. It's interesting that a guy known for having his finger on the pulse of grassroots conservative/tea party sentiment isn't following Walker's lead but rather stressing his own relative moderation on the issue. There are obvious political reasons for that - he's addressing the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce here, and as one of the few GOP candidates who opposes a path to citizenship, he needs a way to show general-election voters that he's no Tancredo when it comes to immigration. But it's telling that he's not worried about Walker getting to his right on the hottest hot-button of the GOP primaries. Maybe he figures that, between his stellar tea-party track record on all manner of policy plus Walker's conspicuous flip-flopping on immigration (which still includes support for a path to citizenship), he can afford to place his emphasis on being pro-immigration - so long as it's legal. Or maybe Cruz suspects that Walker's wink-wink at reducing legal immigration levels actually isn't a position that an "electable" Republican can take. He wouldn't be alone in that belief, if so.

Try to watch both immigration Q&As below as they're both worth your time. Cruz spends most of his answers accusing Democrats of being the main obstacle to reform because of their fanatic, self-interested insistence on citizenship for illegals, a criticism that's valid but also ironic given that Cruz himself continues to support some kind of legal status for illegals and surely knows that that will lead to demands for citizenship eventually. (He notes in passing at around 1:31:00 that his amendment to the Gang of Eight bill didn't attempt to eliminate work permits for illegals, just citizenship.) Anyway, your exit question: Is this comment, from elsewhere in yesterday's Q&A, really the best way to pander to a racial group?

"I don't think I've ever seen an Hispanic panhandler. And the reason is: In our community it would be shameful to be begging on the street," Cruz said, recalling a conversation he once had with a Latino businessman on the topic.

You get his point - Latinos are hard workers, they should prefer a political party that looks dimly on welfare - but the inevitable follow-up question will be "Which communities don't regard it as shameful to be begging on the street?" Good luck with that one.


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1 posted on 02/09/2016 9:25:27 AM PST by xzins
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Ted Cruz flip flopped on hundreds of thousands of immigrants H1B visas just MONTHS AGO. It was not BEFORE his campaign began. It was AFTER he was already in this campaign. He flip-flopped when it became evident that this position was killing him in the polls. So, he had a PR event with Jeff Sessions and came out to say “I’ve seen the light.”

A suspect flip-flop for sure, since part of his justification of it at other points was his OWN DAD studying math. Has he ‘fired’ his dad from his memory?

At the 46 minute mark Cruz makes his “no stronger advocate remark”

At the 48:30 mark he strongly pushes for H1B visas, talking about how they create jobs, help the nation, etc., etc.


2 posted on 02/09/2016 9:25:42 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Excellent Find! People have claimed Cruz has evolved and changed his stance on increasing H-1B Visas 500%...Eh maybe not!


3 posted on 02/09/2016 9:28:23 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: xzins
In our community it would be shameful to be begging on the street," Cruz said

(Me: but rape, murder, drug dealing, drunk driving, human smuggling etc are all A-OK!)

4 posted on 02/09/2016 9:28:37 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: xzins

And he has come around on this issue, to my satisfaction.


5 posted on 02/09/2016 9:30:48 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: xzins
“What's new pussycat” by Tom Jones.
6 posted on 02/09/2016 9:31:50 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: xzins

It is now so much the flip-flops in the past. It is the fact that he will owe his election to the people who donated to his campaign. He has enough skeletons in his closet to make it very easy for the “donors” to shape what he actually does as President.

There is only one candidate about which this cannot be said. Only one candidate who can actually keep a promise. (I know! I know! Which one? Which position? Yada! Yada! Yada!)


7 posted on 02/09/2016 9:32:59 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: bushwon

Well, Chad Sweet’s wife’s company would probably love more H1B visas.


8 posted on 02/09/2016 9:33:05 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: bushwon

” People have claimed Cruz has evolved and changed his stance on increasing H-1B Visas 500%...Eh maybe not!”

Maybe not ? 500% NOT


9 posted on 02/09/2016 9:33:07 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: dirtboy

Only because he was caught.


10 posted on 02/09/2016 9:33:33 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

H1B killing American’s jobs. He should flip on that flop IMO.


11 posted on 02/09/2016 9:34:55 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: xzins

As a consultant working for my own company, I’ve worked at a number of companies in the last few years. They are all building giant data centers in India (Pune, Mumbai, etc.) These IT jobs are all going to Indian immigrants or to India. Pick your poison. India is producing cheap and competent, though not generally innovative, IT people by the millions.


12 posted on 02/09/2016 9:38:28 AM PST by dead (Please clap.)
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To: bushwon

Well H1B isn’t immigration, it’s a different arrangement.

I’ve mixed attitudes on it. I am one of the few palefaces in an H1B office. We get along fine.

What this might look like if the contractors were all native US? I don’t know. Would it be possible or maybe are Americans too demoralized to do what India Indians are not? One thing I have noticed is that India Indians tend to be deeper spiritually than where Americans are today. Life is more to them than being computer programmers, and maybe that is ironically why they are so relatively good at being computer programmers. Less potential for burnout.

My answer to the H1B question would be to bring Jesus (and that’s not Jesus Ortega) back to America.


13 posted on 02/09/2016 9:39:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: xzins

Cruiz is an idiot, or worse. He wants to drastically increase legal immigration, but using the Third World preferences Ted Kennedy set up in 1965. Plus he wants to betray American workers by importing tens of thousands more H1-B visas. No way would I vote for this guy.


14 posted on 02/09/2016 9:43:08 AM PST by montag813
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To: TornadoAlley3

“What’s new pussycat” by Tom Jones.


Too Funny!


15 posted on 02/09/2016 9:45:06 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: dead

I’d claim that attitude is related to general philosophy.

The philosophy of India is heavily Hindu based, with a smattering of Christian influence and a lot of eclecticism. But the point is, that it’s spiritual. I see what this is like daily where I work, in a contracting firm that is mostly H1B based but brings in US born people that ring their bells for some reason (like I did).

Whatever the “poison” you get with India, it is never a sheerly self destructive Kool-Aid. I note the comments of C. S. Lewis who said he would have embraced the dualism of Hindu philosophy had he not encountered Christ.

The world is full of nuances that we can so easily miss.


16 posted on 02/09/2016 9:45:18 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: xzins; Tennessee Nana; frog in a pot; AuntB; Jane Long
A GREAT EXAMPLE OF CRUZ/S PATENTED WHIRLING DERVISH ROUTINE: He supports it and then votes against it to provide cover for himself.

Example: Crux's cloture vote. He pushed for it, then voted to bring it to the floor, then voted against it knowing it was going to pass.

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SOP for self-serving Cruz---an Ivy League mind at work:

<><> He takes 3-4 positions on an issue.

<><> He then lies in wait to see which position benefits him.

<><> Once the voting stops, he examines which way the political winds are blowing.

<><> He then pulls out a canned excuse to cover his self-serving ***.

17 posted on 02/09/2016 9:46:00 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: xzins; All

Anyone have the H-1B Visa Ping List?


18 posted on 02/09/2016 9:46:14 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: stephenjohnbanker

” People have claimed Cruz has evolved and changed his stance on increasing H-1B Visas 500%...Eh maybe not!”

Maybe not ? 500% NOT


Well put!!


19 posted on 02/09/2016 9:47:02 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: dead

They aren’t competent. They are “C” level. And they have “C” English.

Put those together and you have totally screwed up data centers which we now do. Too many people in the field admit it.

The only way the companies get away with it is an agreement to tolerate “C” across the board. Call for help with some of these places some day and see what you get.


20 posted on 02/09/2016 9:47:14 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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