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Mrs. Clinton's Super Delegate Democracy
Townhall.com ^ | January 24, 2016 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 01/24/2016 8:35:29 AM PST by Kaslin

Spare this nation President Hillary Clinton. But how?

If you think Hillary Clinton is going to be indicted for her illegal misuse of classified documents, you haven't been paying attention. Attorney General Loretta Sanchez, appointed by President Obama, has discretion not to indict. She'll use it.

Want to argue that the Obama Department of Justice will put enforcing the law ahead of politics? Go right ahead.

The bigger issue, really, is whether Mrs. Clinton will be held accountable by voters. She put the people of this country at risk, and did so, quite obviously, in pursuit of her own selfish personal and political advantage. As Secretary of State, Hillary did our public business privately to keep her email from prying eyes at the State Department and elsewhere in that same federal government she wants to otherwise use to regulate everyone else.

Yet, very dangerously, her Westchester, N.Y., server and the information it stored were extremely vulnerable to capture by Chinese and Russian intelligence. And others.

It's now clear that numerous classified documents passed through her personal, private, "home" email server — Fox News reports "several dozen." Earlier this month, the U.S. Intelligence Community's Inspector General informed Congress that extremely sensitive and classified material, allegedly involving human intelligence, had been discovered on Hillary's private server. That disclosure led one former Special Operations planner to declare, "There are people's lives at stake."

Meanwhile, just last week the State Department announced it would not be able to comply with the court-mandated date to turn over the final 9,400 pages of then-Secretary of State Clinton's emails, asking the judge for a one-month extension — past the first presidential caucuses and primaries.

More Equal Than Others

Polls have consistently shown Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders besting Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire and a recent CNN poll placed Sanders ahead in Iowa as well. Clinton, however, has consistently led in national polls.

Unlike the GOP race for president, the Sanders-Clinton tussle features a one-on-one David vs. Goliath contest. Yet, in an illuminating way, it does mirror the casting of the Republican presidential contest as "outsiders" — businessman Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz and neurosurgeon Ben Carson — against "establishment" (insider) Republicans, namely, Florida Sen. Florida Man, former Florida Gov. Florida Man, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

On the one hand, Sen. Bernie Sanders is the ultimate "outsider." He's not even really a Democrat, at least not until 2015, when he officially joined the party to run for the party's presidential nomination. Granted, the Senator had caucused with Democrats, but has continued to call himself a "democratic socialist." Moreover, he ran and won his Vermont U.S. Senate seat as an independent. When he switched from independent to Democrat, Sanders had been the longest serving independent in the history of the U.S. Congress.

On the other hand, how can Sanders be considered an outsider when he's been on the inside of Congress legislating this awful mess for the last quarter century? Note that Republican U.S. Senators still running for president — Cruz, Rubio, and Paul — are only in their first term, bearing a tad less responsibility for the status quo. The more outside outsiders Trump, Carson and Carly Fiorina are completely guilt-free, having never served in any public office.

Still, compared to the Hillary Clinton of Democratic royal family fame, Sanders is decidedly the outsider. That's why Clinton's confidant, Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz ensured the presidential debates would only be held on weekend evenings against major sporting events, the better to avoid an audience for the challenger to score points against the party favorite.

For the record, Clinton and Wasserman Schultz also share an uncanny inability to explain the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist. But I digress.

My point is that despite the fact that a majority of Americans don't trust Hillary, and even 40 percent of Democrats say "honest" isn't a good word to describe her, Mrs. Clinton will nonetheless win the Democratic Party nomination for president.

And that's whether a majority of the people who cast ballots in Democratic primaries and caucuses vote for her . . . or not.

A Done Deal

One might surmise that the Democratic Party would embrace democratic practices and principles, and, therefore, that the candidate garnering the most votes in these exciting caucus and primary contests we hear so much about would win the party's nomination. One would surmise incorrectly.

Let me explain: Democrats have a lot of "superdelegates."

These are party leaders, elected officials and former elected officials. In short, muckety-mucks. They're appointed to be delegates and get to vote representing the party establishment, just like the delegates actually chosen through democratic elections get to vote. Thankfully, there are only 712 superdelegates among a total of 4,764 delegates.

Still, that’s 15 percent of the total vote. And why should there be even one unelected delegate voting to cancel out an elected delegate's vote?

By the way, did I mention that Hillary Clinton leads Sanders in committed superdelegates by 380 to eleven? She's winning the insider vote by an incredible 97 to 3 percent over the Bern.

What does this mean? It means that Bernie Sanders could win the actually voting in all the primaries and caucuses by a whopping 58 to 42 percent over Clinton and still lose the presidential nomination to Hillary among delegates as a whole.

That's not democracy. It's a fixed insider game . . . played to near perfection by the consummate insider politician.

Hillary Clinton will not be indicted. The DOJ won't stop her. Bernie Sanders won't stop her, either, even with an underwhelmed Democrat base flocking to the democratic socialist.

Will Republicans?


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1 posted on 01/24/2016 8:35:29 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Attorney General Loretta Sanchez

Who?

2 posted on 01/24/2016 8:37:39 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Kaslin

The ONLY way that Hillary is indicted is if Obama wants her to be indicted.
Why else is she crawling in bed with him now??


3 posted on 01/24/2016 8:40:00 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Loretta Lynch. The author most likely had a brain freeze, which happens.


4 posted on 01/24/2016 8:42:39 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I remember Loretta Sanchez as a nasty (D) Congresswoman from Santa Ana, Orange County, CA. Little did I know she has replaced Loretta Lynch as US AG...


5 posted on 01/24/2016 8:44:13 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Yes Loretta Sanchez, another California friggin commie..just think Nancy Pelosi only Mexican/Hispanic...whatever the PC is these days:

Wiki Sanchez

6 posted on 01/24/2016 8:46:02 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Kaslin

The Government will not indict her, but the American Voters can...by not attending her ‘6 people that showed up to be ignored’ and ‘2 hours late for a 5 minute speech’....

Don’t vote for her, don’t listen to her, I know that’s hard since she thinks she’s so smart but a smart person doesn’t cause scandal after scandal after scandal, so just plain ignore her and her ilk...

We have the power in our Vote, she doesn’t get the votes, she’s gone AGAIN...maybe in 4 years from now she’ll be in a rest home...


7 posted on 01/24/2016 8:46:25 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ( 'THE FORCE AWAKENS'!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP !!! 100%)
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To: Kaslin
Attorney General Loretta Sanchez, appointed by President Obama, has discretion not to indict.

And therein is part of the problem. Everybody in DC plays the CYA game and we sit here, PO'ed, and don't do anything about it. Time to get off your a$$, get to the polls, and throw the bums out.

8 posted on 01/24/2016 8:46:54 AM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Kaslin

[Superdelegates] means that Bernie Sanders could win the actually voting in all the primaries and caucuses by a whopping 58 to 42 percent over Clinton and still lose the presidential nomination to Hillary among delegates as a whole.

This means ... Anyone, including HRC, needs to earn 59% of the delegates to overcome the super delegate machine.

This ... is how Biden can swoop in as well.

The Dems have such a high count of SDs that is unlikely the nomination will be secured on ‘earned’ delegates alone.


9 posted on 01/24/2016 8:47:06 AM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: Kaslin
Hillary Clinton will not be indicted. The DOJ won't stop her. Bernie Sanders won't stop her, either, even with an underwhelmed Democrat base flocking to the democratic socialist. Will Republicans?

This statement reflects reality. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional or wishful thinking. I've said a number of time, we could have Hillary on video tape murdering her political enemies and she would not be indicted.

Republicans and independents need to VOTE ! Bloomberg running as a 3rd party would also help to put a stake in the witch's heart!

10 posted on 01/24/2016 8:52:35 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: BlueNgold
unlikely the nomination will be secured on ‘earned’ delegates alone.

Wouldn't rank-and-file delegates and Dems be very ticked off if the bosses stole the day? Might not Sanders run as an independent to knife the Hill?

11 posted on 01/24/2016 8:56:26 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Kaslin

Here super delegates are those monkeys with wings that fly about to irritate the attendees. If irritated enough the leftists will end up voting for Boinie Sanders.


12 posted on 01/24/2016 9:03:12 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...
f you think Hillary Clinton is going to be indicted for her illegal misuse of classified documents, you haven't been paying attention. Attorney General Loretta Sanchez, appointed by President Obama, has discretion not to indict. She'll use it. Want to argue that the Obama Department of Justice will put enforcing the law ahead of politics? Go right ahead.

13 posted on 01/24/2016 9:03:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Kaslin

Stopped Reading after A G Loretta Sanchez


14 posted on 01/24/2016 9:06:20 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: Chewbarkah

She was in the HB 4th of july parade and was running around like a slut in a red dress giving huggs I got one


15 posted on 01/24/2016 9:07:20 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: Kaslin

16 posted on 01/24/2016 9:11:29 AM PST by hey Bean
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To: Kaslin

So what if Hillay’s choices caused Americans in the Intelligence business to be murdered?

I mean come on, her husband has forgiven her - just as she forgave him for raping women.

And isn’t that all that counts among DC elites?


17 posted on 01/24/2016 9:14:30 AM PST by GOPJ (It's more important to have a gun in your hand than a cop on the phone- Florida Sheriff Grady Judd)
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To: Kaslin

Small problem: in 08, supposedly Clinton had the “supers” wrapped up then, too.

How’d that work out for her?


18 posted on 01/24/2016 9:20:16 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SamuraiScot

I see two possible scenarios...
1. HRC remains unindicted, Bern gets 50% or more of the earned delegates, she claims the nomination, Bern goes independent (again). They will attempt to buy him off with a cabinet post, but I doubt he bites the way Hillary did.
2. Hillary gets herself indicted, or at least the recommendation for charges is published, and she’s scrambling. BHO and Biden make some calls, and the super delegates revolt, leaving no nomination on the first ballot. Hillary gets a call - release your earned delegates or face a jury. Enter Joe on his white horse.


19 posted on 01/24/2016 9:22:57 AM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: LS

Exactly so. It was Dem superdelegates that booted Hillary, who actually had more primary votes.


20 posted on 01/24/2016 9:27:12 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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