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Barney Frank Praises Ted Cruz For Position On Gay Marriage (2014)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com ^ | October 30, 2014

Posted on 01/19/2016 10:40:17 AM PST by NKP_Vet

Former Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) praised Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for his view on gay marriage on Thursday's broadcast of CNBC's Squawk Box. Cruz appeared on the show prior to Frank and said though he believes marriage is between one man and one woman, that it is up to each state to decide what their marriage law should be.

"I support the Constitution letting each state decide each marriage law consistent with the values of their citizens," Cruz said. "If the citizens of California decide they want to allow gay marriage, that's a decision for them."

Barney Frank said Cruz's comments represent an "evolution" of how gay marriage is viewed in the U.S.

"Ted Cruz is one of the most conservative people in American politics. He just made a very important statement that you quoted, that you ran on the air, which he said if a state wants to have same-sex marriage, that's okay," Frank said. "So even Ted Cruz's position, as I said he's the leader of the right in America, he represents an evolution in favor of allowing same-sex marriage."

"It's even more vindication that the country is moving when someone on the right takes that position," Frank said.

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To: NKP_Vet

That was back in 2014, before a majority of the Supreme Court decreed that homosexual marriage is a constitutional right and that all states are prohibited from refusing to recognize it.

I wish that the Supreme Court had adopted Cruz’s position. Every state that put homosexual marriage on the ballot voted it down. It was only through the courts that homosexual marriage was imposed.


21 posted on 01/19/2016 10:55:00 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Proud2BeRight

22 posted on 01/19/2016 11:01:54 AM PST by South40 ("One of the reasons I like Ted Cruz so much, is that he's not controversial," ~Donald Trump)
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To: PROCON

“Ted Cruz is one of the most conservative people in American politics. He just made a very important statement that you quoted, that you ran on the air, which he said if a state wants to have same-sex marriage, that’s okay,”

There are two separate concepts in that statement Cruz made.

Cruz affirms that:

1. gay marriage is a state issue

2. gay marriage is okay

Half of that belong to the New York values he slammed, and the other half is acceptable to the gays, because they know it is a pig in a poke.


23 posted on 01/19/2016 11:02:12 AM PST by odawg
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To: NKP_Vet
Cruz was not wrong. The Constitution grants the Federal Government no role in policing morality in America. That is part of the "Police Power," left to the States.

Barney Frank was simply trying to "gild the perverted lilly," as it were, in his comment.

Same-sex marriage is, of course, an oxymoron. It is certainly not acceptable to rational people. But neither is your misrepresentation of the issue here. It is precisely because so few in Washington have defended the traditional separation of powers; so few have defended the retained sovereignty of the States, that we have devolved into the moral cesspool in America.

Cruz & Trump appear to offer the best hope of rallying Americans back to their heritage. These efforts to bring one or the other of them down, are totally counter-productive.

24 posted on 01/19/2016 11:05:24 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: South40

Thank you for pointing that out. Cruz has a personal opinion and then defers to the Constitution. Trump has flipped or flopped on this issue. A BIG difference.


25 posted on 01/19/2016 11:05:30 AM PST by vpintheak (Death before disarmament!)
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To: vpintheak
Cruz has a personal opinion and then defers to the Constitution. Trump has flipped or flopped on this issue. A BIG difference.

Indeed it is. Trump has been an outspoken advocate for the gay lobby for at least 15 years.

26 posted on 01/19/2016 11:14:10 AM PST by South40 ("One of the reasons I like Ted Cruz so much, is that he's not controversial," ~Donald Trump)
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To: NKP_Vet

Cruz’s position is about the CONSTITUTION, not GAY MARRIAGE.

Cruz is in favor of the Constitution ruling on law.

Personally, I’m pretty sure he opposes it. But not to the point that he would throw out the Constitution to enforce his objections.

That’s a “Constitutional Conservative”.


27 posted on 01/19/2016 11:31:23 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (New York City Values or Consistent Conservatism: Where do you stand?)
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To: Proud2BeRight

I disagree with Trump or anyone else that thinks it’s settled “law”. The Supreme Court does not make law. The Congress does. A Constitutional amendment is the way to go but the problem is we have a one party system now and the DemoRepubs love to cater to queers. Nothing will ever be done about queer “marriage”. Anthony Kennedy does not make law, but the worthless republicans led by weasel RINOs like Boehner, then Ryan and McConnell could care less about the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman. All are a bunch of immoral, wimpy, bastards. Makes no difference what party they belong to.


28 posted on 01/19/2016 11:39:25 AM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

” Every state that put homosexual marriage on the ballot voted it down.”

Totally false, starting with *@$&&#”* liberals in my own state. Passed in the high 50s.


29 posted on 01/19/2016 11:41:11 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Which state?


30 posted on 01/19/2016 11:49:14 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: CA Conservative

Cruz and Rand Paul have never advocated for a Constitutional amendment. These so-called “states rights” politicians get it wrong on marriage. Until the day comes that the Constitution is amended to protect marriage this country will keep sinking deeper and deeper into the gutter. As far as I know only Huckabee and Santorum want a Constitutional amendment protecting marriage as one man and one woman.


31 posted on 01/19/2016 11:52:07 AM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: NKP_Vet

bump


32 posted on 01/19/2016 12:10:32 PM PST by GOPJ (Dem debate hosted by Google, NBC & non-convicted members of Congressional Black Caucus-Greenfield)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Santorum is a much better social conservative AND much better on immigration issues than Rafael Cruz. Rafael wants a path to legal status for Illegals! See for yourself! No need to take my word.

Path to Legal Status for Illegals

Score Rubio +1 for this:

^When you talk about immigration. Ted Cruz, you used to say you supported doubling the number of green cards, now you say you are against it. You used to support 500 percent increase in the number of guest workers, now against it. You used to support legalizing people here illegally. Now against it. You used to say you were in favor of birthright citizenship. Now you are against it. Not just on immigration, you used to support TPA, now you are against it. I saw you on the Senate floor flip your vote on crop insurance because they told you it would help you in Iowa. And last week we saw you flip the vote on Iowa for the same reason. That is not consistent conservatism. That is political calculation.^

33 posted on 01/19/2016 1:00:36 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz 100% eligible as natural born Canada citizen!! SCOTUS might clear his USA NBC status.)
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To: South40

SCOTUS ruled. Constitution says SCOTUS is the final word. Now we must suffer through it.


34 posted on 01/19/2016 1:02:49 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz 100% eligible as natural born Canada citizen!! SCOTUS might clear his USA NBC status.)
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To: NKP_Vet

A constitutional amendment defining marriage won’t do what you think it will. It will just give us exactly what DOMA gave us: freedom for states to define marriage according to their own decision-making arrangements, without federal intervention. Many did this, despite DOMA.

DOMA also defined marriage for federal purposes.

That’s all an amendment would do, which is good. It could not be “struck down” by activist judges, and it reflects the will of the people.


35 posted on 01/20/2016 12:12:35 PM PST by fwdude
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To: entropy12
Where does the Constitution say that SCOTUS is the "final word?" That's right, no where.

The PEOPLE are the final word.

36 posted on 01/20/2016 12:13:53 PM PST by fwdude
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To: steve86
Totally false, starting with *@$&&#”* liberals in my own state. Passed in the high 50s.

Only ONE state directly passed marriage redefinition: Maine.

The others merely repudiated marriage amendments, and then their legislators acted to enact "what was unnecessary by a constitutional amendment because it's already illegal."

37 posted on 01/20/2016 12:17:20 PM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude

You are confused. If people were the final word, abortions would be illegal and all the illegals would be deported.


38 posted on 01/20/2016 5:01:10 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz 100% eligible as natural born Canada citizen!! SCOTUS might clear his USA NBC status.)
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To: NKP_Vet
"I support the Constitution letting each state decide each marriage law consistent with the values of their citizens," Cruz said. "If the citizens of California decide they want to allow gay marriage, that's a decision for them."

I am 100% in agreement with this.

39 posted on 01/20/2016 5:06:46 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: odawg
Here's what Ted really said:

"I support the Constitution letting each state decide each marriage law consistent with the values of their citizens," Cruz said. "If the citizens of California decide they want to allow gay marriage, that's a decision for them."

Nowhere in any of that did Ted say gay marriage was OK. and for the record, the State of California rejected same-sex marriage. Twice. So Ted got it right. And you got caught lying about it.

40 posted on 01/20/2016 5:10:39 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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