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LIVE THREAD:Donald Trump speaking at Liberty University @ 10:30am today [1-18-16]
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Posted on 01/18/2016 5:34:27 AM PST by nikos1121

GOP Presidential candidate Donald Trump will speak at Liberty University’s first convocation of 2016. The event is scheduled to begin at 10:30 AM EST.


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To: Theophilus

“I believe we’ll reap what we sow.”

That’s a fact, no matter what the subject.

Another truism: “We get the government we deserve.” It’ll be interesting to find out what God has in store for us at the end of the year.


521 posted on 01/18/2016 11:13:08 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Bless the beasts and the children, for in this world they have no voice... they have no choice)
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To: nikos1121

I have to say, as an evangelical, Baptist, born-again Christian, I will have no problem whatsoever voting for Donald Trump. I want somebody who will take care of the issue that I am most concerned about and that is illegal immigration, which is destroying this country. No, Trump is not everything I would want in a candidate. He’s too prideful, rude, and unforgiving, BUT out of all the candidates, he is the only one I believe would be bullheaded enough to actually carry out his promise to rid this nation of the millions and millions of undocumented squatters. And do you know why I believe he would be bullheaded enough to keep his promises, regarding deportation, building the wall and securing our border? Because I see and hear in him the same frustration I have about this insanity. He gets what it is doing to our business and our country’s resources. I don’t get that same sense from any of the other candidates. I still think Ted Cruz is better than the other contenders below him, HOWEVER, he hasn’t convinced me at all me he is as concerned and as determined about stopping this insanity as Trump has.

And to my fellow Christians, let me just say this. Don’t assume God only wants us to vote for another believer. The Bible says in Psalm 75:7 that it is God who raises up one and puts down another, that the authorities that be are ordained by God. (Romans 13:1) And he does it for His own purposes, whether to judge a nation, deliver a nation, or to prosper a nation. And we don’t usually recognize which purpose He is carrying out when we cast our votes. However, the Scriptures clearly teach that it is God who has the deciding vote on any potential leader. Don’t forget, He set up pagan kings over his people and told them to submit to them, including the notoriously egotistical, Nebuchadnezzar, whom He would later humble in a colossal way. (I’m praying for Trump to be humbled and saved too.) God called the pagan, Darius, “His servant.”

This argument that assumes a Christian will make a better and more wiser president than a non-Christian president is utterly ridiculous. Some of the dumbest decisions ever made have come from born-again believers, I know, because I’ve made them. Some of the most unscriptural convictions are held and devoutly practiced by blood-bought children of God. Even Jesus said, “The children of this world are wiser in their generation than the children of light.” For example, both Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush were presidents I consider to be Christians, but only one of them would I consider to be a benefit and a success to this nation in the world. The assumption of some Christians is if a candidate is a fellow believer, God always wants and expects them to vote for that person. Just because a Christian runs for office, does not mean that it was ever God’s will or intention for that person to run or be elected. For instance, my pastor told me one time that the highest calling a man can receive on earth is for his Creator to call him into the ministry to preach and teach the Word of God. And since Mike Huckabee has claimed over the years to have had this high calling, my pastor wondered why he forsook it to be a politician. Does Huckabee really believe that would God change His mind and wants him to be president more than a preacher? Well, the Bible says the gifts and callings of God are irreversible. (Romans 11:29) I remember how Sarah Palin was touted as the next Esther to deliver America from that wicked Obama. She was praised as, prayed for, and prophesied to, but it didn’t happen. And God knew it wouldn’t happen. You don’t think He could not have exalted her to the presidency if He had ordained her to be president? Of course He could have and would have. The truth is, it was never God’s calling for her, it was the calling of those of us who wanted her to be in power. Besides, she is too good for a country gone bad. A country that was and still is, morally corrupt and spiritually bankrupt. Was it God’s perfect will that more foolish and ungodly decisions with detrimental outcomes continue in this nation and that Barack Obama would be elected and then reelected? Of course not. But it was His permissive will, because He used him to bring this country down from its rebellion against Him.

It’s been said before, but it needs repeating. We are voting for a president, not a pastor. We are trying to find someone who loves this country and will protect her, care for her people, and enforce her laws at all cost. And for me, Donald Trump comes the closest to doing just that. If I am needing emergency surgery, I’m not going to vet the doctor on his religious views, before I let him touch me. I look at his track record, his resume, on what he has accomplished as a surgeon and then I’ll decide whether or not his experience warrants my trust. Well, our nation needs emergency surgery to remove the growing invasion of unwanted illegals that are sucking the life out of it. And since Donald Trump knows what it’s like to run a business, meet a payroll, create jobs, and hire the best. And since he knows what is threatening our jobs, our economy, and our global competitiveness. And since he knows the security of America is at stake and hasn’t back down one iota in calling a spade a spade, regarding what is required to defend us, I’m voting for him.


522 posted on 01/18/2016 11:22:04 AM PST by Southnsoul
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To: HoosierWordsmith; Jim Robinson
To annoy you Deo!

So you are saying the only reason you are here is to kick the sand mound and rattle the cage?
523 posted on 01/18/2016 11:26:47 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Southnsoul

AMEN!


524 posted on 01/18/2016 11:27:45 AM PST by conservativesister
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To: Deo volente

The howlers are out.


525 posted on 01/18/2016 11:28:17 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (The schadenfreude is going to be epic)
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To: McGruff

Obama drew big crowds and proclaimed to be a Christian. This blue state yankee is telling you what you want to hear. Put down the kool aid.


526 posted on 01/18/2016 11:28:19 AM PST by realismisachoice
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To: HoosierWordsmith

That is the media interpretation If you has been here on the thread and watch Yiu would seen the truth. It was not Trump who brought Brown up for vp it was from the attendees. Trump just acknowledged it. So the MSM took it an ran.
The original purpose of this group was to get material without MSM filter. It has become a very positive, informative fun community with much good news and few disruptions. You are welcome to follow us and see for yourself Today was an exception. The natural reaction is to defend ones turf I guess when JR refused to remove our posting privileges and ban all of us. The “group decided to attack.
Hope you are more mature than to play that game. And yes there are long time GOPee who are organiers. Many were once Walker or Kasich followers And then there is the religious zealots. We had an example of that today. ITS an example of why there are separate religious groups on FR


527 posted on 01/18/2016 11:35:01 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: Albion Wilde

AGREE AGREE AGREE


528 posted on 01/18/2016 11:35:54 AM PST by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: HoosierWordsmith

Go annoy people somewhere else.


529 posted on 01/18/2016 11:38:15 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: McGruff

Bookmark


530 posted on 01/18/2016 11:43:31 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: freepersup
No blinders here- Iran has been killing Americans for at least from the time they blew up our Marine barracks in Beirut, to now, directly, indirectly and by proxies. One could go back further with a bit of research and find earlier instances of attacks resulting in U S deaths. Failing to punish them sufficiently enough to break their will has resulted in a continuation of their murdering terrorist ways. We have appeasement at the highest levels of U S Govt. Other than that- how’s your day going?

Thanks for the post. How many Americans have forgotten or never learned about the Beirut Marine barracks. That 150 billion belonged to their families!
531 posted on 01/18/2016 11:47:18 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks Jim.


532 posted on 01/18/2016 11:50:35 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: All

Hope you all got to listen to Rush Limbaugh today!!!!!!!!!!


533 posted on 01/18/2016 11:56:55 AM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: PA Engineer; Jim Robinson

“So you are saying the only reason you are here is to kick the sand mound and rattle the cage?”

No PA, you are saying that...I was posting to provide my viewpoint and observations regarding the Trump visit to Liberty this morning.

IMHO, FR has been substantially taken over by Trump supporters and there has been a battle brewing for some time now over the constant barrage of anti-Cruz negative articles and postings that has ramped up in recent days & weeks. There is also too much of the same from the Cruz side. I believe this reflects the very public and “nasty” Trump-Cruz battle that commenced recently. Everyone on each side is taking it so personally...even to the point of threats and also reports to the FR moderator. I find most of banter and rebuttals pretty amusing and sometimes informative, but some of it is very emotional. I apologize to those on FR who do not believe that commentary and free speech (even material somtimes intended to be satirical) should not be allowed on FR.


534 posted on 01/18/2016 12:03:06 PM PST by HoosierWordsmith
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To: Southnsoul

Trump has never made a hard choice in his life. He has done nothing but business, and knows how to smooze people to get what he wants. This country is at a point where the decisions we make will sink us if not the right decision. I have not heard DT make the case for following the constitution. If fact, he never mentions the constitution. Always be mindful of who will support the constitution, and not just rhetoric.


535 posted on 01/18/2016 12:04:54 PM PST by realismisachoice
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To: PA Engineer

You’re welcome. If the doo doo ever hits the fan, there’s going to be a shortage of lamp posts due to the waiting list of necks needing stretched out a bit.


536 posted on 01/18/2016 12:05:14 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: nikos1121; All

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I’d love to support either Ted Cruz or Donald Trump for POTUS ... and I’m a staunch Ted Cruz campaigner.

Why ?

We all want a BIG Wall with Mexico.

We all want to cancel ObamaCare.

We all want to scrap the Iran Deal.

We all want to rebuild the U.S. Military.

We all want to ship Syrian Islamic Terrorist Refugees back to the Middle East.

We all want to protect the Second Amendment.

We all want to fix the Veteran’s Admin health care system.

We all want to delete Common Core.

We all want to exterminate ISIS.

We all want to stop Islamic Visas into America until we get a better handle on accurate screening processes.

Need I continue ?

The acrimony between political camps at Free Republic is downright assinine (sp) and stupid.

How about we just let the Iowa and New Hampshire voters do their primaries ?

Thank GOD that neither Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Lindsay Graham, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney or John Kasisch will win ANY 2016 GOP state primaries.

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537 posted on 01/18/2016 12:05:28 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: PA Engineer; HoosierWordsmith; Jim Robinson
“So you are saying the only reason you are here is to kick the sand mound and rattle the cage?”

Not sure about HoosierWordsmith, but I'm here SOLELY because I got on a ping list I didn't even sign up for (see ping #48 here). I immediately wrote to get off of it which they did just after pinging me again for another thread. The pinger said to another here in ping #424 “The power of data-mining and audience targeting” in response to their “seeing new faces here for the first time”. Its no wonder.

538 posted on 01/18/2016 12:06:55 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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To: Vision Thing

Grandpa Munster. I have seen that one a lot.


539 posted on 01/18/2016 12:08:28 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: KGeorge; native texan; djstex; ronniesgal; V K Lee; jpsb; Abby4116; Kudsman; treetopsandroofs; ...
Thanks for the ping.

You are all most welcome! Thanks for considering the candidate who wants to Make America Great Again!

540 posted on 01/18/2016 12:09:09 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("We need someone to lead us back to the standard of excellence we once epitomized." --Donald Trump)
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