Posted on 01/16/2016 2:29:17 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
A lawsuit was just filed questioning his eligibility to serve as president. And that's not all.
It's unclear what will come of this complaint, but this isn't the only birther action that Cruz is contending with. Also on Thursday, the Arizona Republic reported that Rep. Kelly Townsend, a Republican state legislator from the Phoenix suburb of Mesa, is "circulating a measure at the Arizona legislature that would call a U.S. constitutional convention to outline what it means to be a natural-born citizen." The paper notes that Townsend hopes to get her Legislature on board before reaching out to other states, since, after all, "it will take 34 states to convene such a meeting, something that hasn't happened since 1787."
This legislative effort--like the lawsuit--appears quixotic. But Trump has ensured this question of his natural-born citizenship status will dog him. As seen in last night's debate, Trump's questioning of Cruz's eligibility has marked a turning point in relations between the two candidates, who have previously refrained from attacking each other throughout the campaign. But, as Trump told CNN's Dana Bash after Thursday's debate, "I guess the bromance is over."
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Can you send me your hard copy version of Mother Jones? I’m out of toilet paper
Had Cruz been born in 1921 under the identical birth circumstances that he was born into in 1970, than he would not even have been a US citizen. The Cable Act, passed in 1922, allowed a US citizen woman, married to a foreign national and who gives birth in a foreign country, to transmit US citizenship onto the newborn child for the first time.
Article II, Section I clause 5, was ratified in 1791 with the rest of the constitution, long before the Cable Act.. Article I has not been modified by any subsequent amendment. Accordingly, the original intent and meaning of Article II stands absent any such constitutional amendment.
The purpose of Article II, Section I clause 5 was to prevent undue foreign influence on the office of the presidency, PARTICULARLY thru a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. The framers took their definition for NBC from Emmerich De Vattel Law of Nations, the 212th paragraph of which was quoted in its entirety in the 1814 Venus Merchantman SCOTUS decision. The Law of Nations is referred to in Article I of the constitution. That definition referred to an NBC as being born of two citizen parents and born on the soil of the nation. That definition was cited in the 1868 case of Minor vs Hapersett, and Wong Kim Ark vs US. De Vattel has been cited and accepted in dozens of SCOTUS and federal lower court rulings. The framers were patriarchs who believed that the citizenship of the children followed the citizenship of the father.
The authors of the 14th amendment, Senators Howard Jacob and Rep. Bingham also defined an NBC in similar terms.
Obama is the very embodiment and personification of the REASON that the framers put those protections into the constitution. By ignoring it, we have opened ourselves to the anti American and unconstitutional tyranny that Obama poses to our constitutional republic.
Ted Cruz is head and shoulders the best candidate in the race. He is a patriot who loves this country and its people. He is intellectually and philosophically superior to ANYONE else in the race. As much as I admire him, He CANNOT be considered a natural born citizen, as he is a citizen by statute. He was born with THREE countries (The US, Canada, and Cuba thru his father) having a legitimate claim on his allegiance from birth, whether he wanted it or not. I believe in the constitution and the rule of law, NOT in the cult of personality. We should not yield to the same dark impulses of expediency and delusion that gave us the tyrannical, sociopathically lying, demagogue of a usurper Obama.
If you had any reading comprehension you wouldn’t be a Trumpbot.
“...to advance their argument.”
I meant those that were criticizing us that were taking Obama to task over this issue.
Mother Jones?
never mind you just carry on now
beat me to it!
This shoot the messenger may backfire and give us a blind spot to the facts of the matter. It is imperative that Rafael “Ted” Cruz put this matter behind him with a fair declaratory judgment about his eligibility. The more he drags his feet about this, the worse public opinion will be about his suitability as President. I do hope this will come out in his favor because I have admired Senator Cruz for a long time.
What many do not get here is that NBC is unimpeachable, it requires no statute, law or legal decision...it is Natures Law and true.
Trump is milking it.
FReepers get all in the weeds about NBC and post mile long court cases when it really is not working. No one outside of FReeperville cares about if Ted is qualified or not. They do not like the fact that he is Canadian born. Trump reads the polls, we know that.:)
update Reuters poll
REUTERS ROLLING: TRUMP 38.2%, CRUZ 14.9%, CARSON 10.7%, BUSH 9.6%... MORE...
Trump same, cruz lost 2points, jeb 2 points, Carson gained 3 points.
Can someone tell me why this man’s nationality is being discussed when we have a sitting president born in Kyna? From a Kenyan father? Oh now it’s not allowed? What the hell is so different here and why hasn’t it been brought up about the sitting president has nationality issue? I don’t see anybody talking about Obama. Educate me please I really don’t get it. Thanks.
Obama was born in Hawaii. Don’t distort facts.
Sure he was. Where have you been? You take forged documents as fact?
Same standard:
In 1936, Trump married Scottish immigrant Mary Anne MacLeod (born May 10, 1912, Stornoway, Scotland...
SCOTUS does not issue declaratory judgments. Cruz knows that, and Trump has been sued enough that he should know it.
My question is, why do they care now? When I questioned Obama’s right to be president I was ridiculed and given a name of Birther. I know Cruz was born in Canada and that is the question, but why did everybody questioning Obama back then get beat to death in the news?........I guess I need to let it go, it just amazes me We just let Obama ride right into the WH and everybody is tripping about Cruz.
“In 1936, Trump married Scottish immigrant Mary Anne MacLeod (born May 10, 1912, Stornoway, Scotland...”
Trump’s mother was a US citizen when Trump was born. Both his parents were US citizens at his birth and he was born in the USA.
Mother Jones = Communist rag
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