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Horowitz: It's Beyond Time For A Cold-Eyed Look At Trump's Record
Conservative Review ^ | January 13th, 2016 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 01/13/2016 1:23:05 PM PST by Isara

“You’ve convinced me [of the need to pass the Dream Act].” [NBC Latino, 8/22/13]

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis with what’s happening, you have to [bring in Syrian refugees]." [Interview with Bill O’Reilly, 9/8/15]

Donald Trump Tells Bill OReilly The US Has to Take Syrian Migrants (Video)

Regarding Kim Davis: “Because we had a ruling from the Supreme Court and we are a country of laws and you have to do what the Supreme Court ultimately, whether you like the decision or not, and it was a 5-4 decision, whether you like the decision or not, you have to go along with the Supreme Court. That’s the way it is.” [Interview with Bill O’Reilly, 9/8/15]

Donald Trump says Kim Davis was in wrong job must follow Supreme Court (Video)

These comments were not made by Jeb Bush who sits at 3% in the polls; they were made by Donald Trump, the front-runner for the GOP nomination.

After spending an entire week discussing the Cruz citizenship issue, can’t we have a debate over whether we’ve properly vetted the frontrunner on some of the critical issues facing our nation?

"Everyone becomes an intrepid conservative convert on the road to Des Moines."

It is self-evident to anyone with a modicum of love for the Republic that this is an election our nation and party cannot get wrong.  Following eight years of Obama’s fundamental transformation, the stakes are too high. 

As someone who has vetted a number of congressional candidates who promised to be conservative but got sucked into the D.C. political vortex upon assuming office, I’ve seen that nobody runs in a primary as anything but a solid conservative.  Everyone becomes an intrepid conservative convert on the road to Des Moines. 

While no candidate has a perfect record, Republicans must have the ability to nominate a party leader with open eyes and a clear sense of where they are coming from and where they are headed.  That is why it’s so vital to have a protracted discussion of the issues and put the personalities aside. 

Each candidate has personal flaws and ideological inconsistencies.  But a long-form discussion vetting each candidate on not just what they have said but what they have done regarding the most critical issues of our time will give the voters the clearest picture of what to expect from our eventual nominee.  We will not get perfection from anyone but we must ensure we are not saddled with the David Souter equivalent of a presidential nominee.

This is why, at Conservative Review, we have posted the most comprehensive analysis of the candidates on an array of issues when it really mattered. 

Among the top candidates, Cruz and Rubio have been pretty thoroughly vetted, although there is certainly always more to discuss.  Much of the punditry and commentary over the past week has been consumed with the silly issue of whether Cruz—who was an automatic citizen at birth—is eligible to run for president as… an automatic citizen at birth.  But with Trump leading in all the national polls just a few weeks from the start of the primaries, there is little discussion about where he stands on some of the critical issues or about his very recent and dramatic evolutions even on the issue of immigration.

You might be thinking, well, of course Trump has been vetted.  After all, he has consumed the national discussion for the past seven months.  But much of that national discussion was focused on the cult of personality—both from those who love him and those who hate him. But as it relates to the critical issues facing our country—sovereignty, security, society, our backwards system of governance, free markets—where is he coming from and where is he headed?  Given his solid front-runner status these should be the most important questions at this point. 

Where is Donald Trump on religious liberty and the role of the courts in social transformation?  Does he really think they are the final law of the land when it comes to the most fundamental private property and religious liberty issues of our time?  Evidently, he thinks the courts have the power to randomly rule on Cruz’s eligibility to run for president. 

Will Donald Trump indeed repeal all of Obamacare?  To this day, in his own words, he seems to back socialized healthcare and praises the systems in place in Canada and Scotland.   

Where will Donald Trump head on the critical issues the minute he wins the primary? 

These are not loaded questions only directed at Trump.  They apply to everyone else as well.  But with just a few weeks left until the primary and with Trump leading by double digits in every national poll, voters deserve as clear a picture of where Trump is headed as any other candidate. 

There are those who don’t want to discuss any of the numerous liberal positions Trump has taken or still holds on so many critical issues—income taxes, the internet sales tax, the role of the courts, abortion, guns, etc.—because they suggest that immigration is all that matters.  

There is nobody more sympathetic to that argument than I am.  Immigration stands at the nexus of sovereignty, security, society, and numerous fiscal and economic issues.  See my exhaustive article on how our backwards immigration policies will create a permanent Democrat majority, rendering every other policy issue moot.  I’ve written several hundred articles on this issue and am in the process of writing a very detailed book on immigration, sovereignty, and the courts.

As such, I’m as tantalized as anyone by the fact that Trump has brought the issue of birthright citizenship for illegals and the right of a nation to exclude harmful immigrants to the forefront.  I’ve been making a forceful case for the border fence for years, including my report on it this year

But where does Trump really stand on the issue?  Where was he on these issues when it mattered prior to running for president? 

Because the media is assailing Trump from the Left for his newfound campaign position on immigration, many conservatives are reflexively attracted to him and are projecting all their hopes and aspirations surrounding the issue onto the personality of The Donald.

But as is the case with so many other issues where he was siding with the far-left until running for president, immigration is no different.  His first intuition in September, when the refugee crisis flared up, was to say that we had a humanitarian obligation to bring in Syrian refugees.  Then when he discovered that conservatives were so ardently opposed to it, he immediately did a 180 and categorically opposed it in his typical attention-grabbing fashion.  At that point there was no turning around, and because the media was attacking his new position from the Left, everyone forgot (or never noticed) his first intuition. 

While Sessions, Cruz, and others on the outside like myself were fighting the worst immigration bill of our generation in 2013, Trump was promoting the Dream Act.  When it really mattered he wasn’t with us. 

Moreover, what sort of judges would Trump nominate?  Where does he stand on proposals to rein in the lawless courts?  If he believes the courts are the law of the land, even when they violate the most fundamental rights or original intent of the Constitution, as he did with religious liberty, what will he do when the courts inevitably use the same phantom 14th Amendment legal theory to toss out his immigration proposals? 

"When it really mattered he wasn’t with us."

Does this mean he can’t join the fight and permanently defend our sovereignty?  No.  As someone who genuinely cares about this issue, I would love nothing more than for Trump to crush the Democrats on this debate in the general election.  We are not asking for a “natural-born” conservative immigration hawk; we will accept legitimate converts to the cause. 

But isn’t it time for a serious discussion about whether we are really certain we know what “the day after” looks like with a Trump nomination given his track record, even as it relates to immigration?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: brokenrecord; danielhorowitz; ilovetowhine; immigration; noconservative; trump; trumpsrecord; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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To: Isara
But isnt it time for a serious discussion about whether we are really certain we know what the day after looks like with a Trump nomination given his track record, even as it relates to immigration?

A question to ask concerning any candidate, and especially Ted Cruz who, until Trump announced almost three months after Cruz, and blew up the primary with his stances on illegal immigration and one-sided trade deals, all Cruz had said on immigration was how he wanted to quintuple H1-Bs and streamline legal immigration and make it something to celebrate.

And, of course, Cruz joined the Uniparty globalist sorts in casting his vote to help the TPA, fast track trade authority, over the 60 vote hurdle.

Cruz has made many changes in his immigration stances since Trump made the issue among the top issues of the campaign. Based on his past stances and flip/flops since Trump's entry into the race, Horowitz definitely needs to have Cruz at the top of his list of those to scrutinize much more closely, along with Marco Rubio, both based on inconsistencies on the critical issues of immigration and one-sided trade deals. "What the day after looks like", indeed.

I absolutely do not trust Cruz on those critical issues.

21 posted on 01/13/2016 1:42:58 PM PST by Will88
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To: SoConPubbie

Trump on 9/9/15:
“I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to,” Trump said in his first Fox News appearance in two weeks, appearing on “The O’Reilly Factor.”

“This was started by President Obama when he didn’t go in and do the job he should have when he drew the line in the sand, which turned out to be a very artificial line,” Trump said in reference to Obama’s red-line warning to Syrian leader Bashar Assad in 2013. “But you know, it’s living in hell in Syria. There’s no question about it. They’re living in hell, and something has to be done.”

When he saw the mess in Europe and the opportunity for ISIS to sneak in, he changed. Not unreasonable.


22 posted on 01/13/2016 1:43:02 PM PST by Rennes Templar (I'm pro gun control: keep your guns under your control at all times.)
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To: SoConPubbie

In before the Trumpsters trash Horowitz!”

He trashes himself the way he support the establishment.


23 posted on 01/13/2016 1:46:55 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad
He trashes himself the way he support the establishment.

More unqualified B.S. from the Trumpsters!
24 posted on 01/13/2016 1:48:37 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Isara

I imagine we should only look at the parts of his record that Horowitz wants us to look at.

There are other parts of his record that are important to me

* he wasn’t member of the disastrous 2015 majority-R congress (Cruz gets a pass from me on this)

* he wasn’t an active part of the party that let Obama, Pelosi, and other Ds walk all over them for the last 7 years and who were an embarrassment on spending the 8 years before that

* he’s a good executive - managed many large projects, with large/diverse hierarchies of employees and large budgets

* he understands budgets, economy, international trade issues

* he seems to take advice from experts under him rather than assume that he (or an external group like the GOP) knows better.

* he isn’t trading his future decision making options for donations and party endorsements today and won’t be making decisions the first 4 years in order to get the same donations/endorsements for the next election


25 posted on 01/13/2016 1:48:40 PM PST by LostPassword
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To: SoConPubbie

Well I couldn’t get in before the Conservative Twister board so, “In before the Ted Cruz Star Wars poster!”


26 posted on 01/13/2016 1:49:05 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: SoConPubbie

Horowitz always was a GOPe Rino

This will help all of those who want him under the bus.


27 posted on 01/13/2016 1:49:40 PM PST by woofie
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To: VanDeKoik

Thats gonna leave a mark.


28 posted on 01/13/2016 1:50:38 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: Rennes Templar
“I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to,” Trump said

Someone earlier mentioned some parallels with Arnold in CA. Here, in MA, I'm seeing parallels with Curt Shilling. Curt made initial motions to run for Sinate. After some interviews, some speeches, it became clear to most he could espouse some conservative ideas in concept, but his core was no way Jose a conservative, and did not understand its fundamentals.

29 posted on 01/13/2016 1:51:09 PM PST by C210N (Supporting the Constitutional Conservative in the race. Constitutional Conservative Cruz.)
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To: SoConPubbie
In before the Trumpsters trash Horowitz!

I think Mr. Trump is telling people what they want to hear. He is media savvy. I do not trust him. Obama made himself a human mirror that made people believe he reflected them.

30 posted on 01/13/2016 1:51:27 PM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Isara

Trump has two big things going for him.

1. He is proud to be an American. His past reveals that.

2. He isn’t afraid to say conservative or rightist opinions despite the enemedia and despite the political establishment.


31 posted on 01/13/2016 1:52:16 PM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftists s the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Isara

Trump has two big things going for him.

1. He is proud to be an American. His past reveals that.

2. He isn’t afraid to say conservative or rightist opinions despite the enemedia and despite the political establishment.


32 posted on 01/13/2016 1:52:18 PM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftists s the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Teacher317

“But as is the case with so many other issues where he was siding with the far-left until running for president, immigration is no different. His first intuition in September, when the refugee crisis flared up, was to say that we had a humanitarian obligation to bring in Syrian refugees. Then when he discovered that conservatives were so ardently opposed to it, he immediately did a 180 and categorically opposed it in his typical attention-grabbing fashion. At that point there was no turning around, and because the media was attacking his new position from the Left, everyone forgot (or never noticed) his first intuition.”

Is this better?


33 posted on 01/13/2016 1:52:32 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: Isara

Not a bad article. A bit untruthful about Trump, but I agree that he needs to flesh out some of his current positions more. One of Trumps strongest points is he has vision. You have to understand that much of what Trump promises are starting points for negotiation. I would like him to identify in more detail where he thinks he can lead America. What will it look like after a Trump term? Then it will be easier to reconcile whether his existing proposals makes sense in getting us to the promised land.

I would like to see this from all the candidates.


34 posted on 01/13/2016 1:54:42 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: VanDeKoik
It is a very rare thing for a freshman Senator to have legislation passed in the Senate, but Cruz has gotten a couple of bills through. His bill to force the Dept. of Defense to declare the Ft. Hood victims as Purple Heart recipients with benefits passed 99/0. Also:

"We stopped the Gang of Eight bill. Ted Cruz led the fight against the establishment would be living under amnesty right now if Cruz had not succeeded." - Rush Limbaugh.

"It was that close to being passed... and I think I can say this with integrity. Without the vigorous opposition of Ted Cruz, this bill likely would have passed._ - Sen. Jeff Session

35 posted on 01/13/2016 1:57:32 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: woofie
Horowitz always was a GOPe Rino

This will help all of those who want him under the bus.


Maybe so, maybe not but that does not take away from the truth he has written.

Try addressing the facts of what he wrote instead of using labels to falsely claim nothing he writes or speaks is of value.
36 posted on 01/13/2016 1:57:49 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

But can Cruz do any deals with Congress or other countries.


37 posted on 01/13/2016 1:58:07 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (How many bills has Ted Cruz passed in the Senate? 1)
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To: Isara

38 posted on 01/13/2016 1:59:23 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: VanDeKoik
The question is WHY did wonder-candidate Cruz and the rest of the GOP suck so badly on reigning in this out of control government.

I can't fault Trump for not having any control since he's outside the system, but you can't dump on Cruz when the more powerful heads of the GOPe (like McCain, McConnell, Boehner, Ryan, and many more) are bad-mouthing him and other true conservatives and rubber-stamping Obama's agenda. Haven't you been paying attention?
39 posted on 01/13/2016 2:02:39 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: conservativejoy

Oh.....

So the easiest freaking bill you could possibly ever get through, and something that Sessions has to bestow credit onto Cruz for.

Well hot damn! 50 state landslide.

If a Democrat had this as their full record and was running for president, we would be wondering what was he on.


40 posted on 01/13/2016 2:04:01 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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