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Horowitz: It's Beyond Time For A Cold-Eyed Look At Trump's Record
Conservative Review ^ | January 13th, 2016 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 01/13/2016 1:23:05 PM PST by Isara

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To: Thorliveshere

If they want to knock Trump as a private citizen, then it is only fair to point at the guys actually in office and find out what was their excuse.


41 posted on 01/13/2016 2:05:42 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Isara
I remember the FR fury over this Trump statement:

"I watched Pam prior, and it looks like she's just taunting everybody," said Trump. "What is she doing? Drawing Muhammad and it looks like she's taunting people"..

-May 2015 Trump on Pamela Geller.

43 posted on 01/13/2016 2:06:05 PM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: stocksthatgoup
But can Cruz do any deals with Congress or other countries.

Do you really believe that Trump will be able to do anything of a conservative nature with the Democrats and GOP-E?

If you do, please explain the leverage he will use.
44 posted on 01/13/2016 2:07:44 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Isara

Things trumpees already know that don’t seem to matter to them.


45 posted on 01/13/2016 2:08:25 PM PST by libbylu
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To: SMM48; Isara
I'm guessing you and your little cabal of Trump haters cream your jeans (or whatever) every time you post one of these bash Trump threads.

Spoken like a card-carrying member of the Trump Personality Cult!
46 posted on 01/13/2016 2:08:31 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: VanDeKoik

Trying to lump Cruz in with the rest of the Senate is cognitive dissonance at its worst. That’s just silly.


47 posted on 01/13/2016 2:08:37 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (Cruz / West 2016)
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To: Isara

Daniel Horowitz is great. Very thorough and very smart!


48 posted on 01/13/2016 2:10:22 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: VanDeKoik

Certainly, I agree, it’s not fair to go after Trump when he was a citizen, but it’s unfair to go after Cruz when it’s been shown that McCain, et al have been constant roadblocks to actual progress.


49 posted on 01/13/2016 2:10:33 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: TheTimeOfMan

“Trying to lump Cruz in with the rest of the Senate is cognitive dissonance at its worst. That’s just silly.”

Oh I forget. It’s inconvenient.

Cant let that pesky part of reality in the way of the narrative that Cruz apparently is the greatest outsider to ever run for office....yet knows the code to the Senate bathroom.


50 posted on 01/13/2016 2:11:40 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: All

Could we stop with all the emotional, immature name calling? This forum is turning into the DU.

Trump and Cruz each have strengths and weaknesses. We need to calmly discuss, analyze and evaluate. We need to bring these issues up and either rationally refute them or rationally consider them.


52 posted on 01/13/2016 2:13:56 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (Cruz / West 2016)
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To: Isara

Trump is a con man — not real. He is not a conservative, but he does play one on TV — at least until after he is elected.


53 posted on 01/13/2016 2:14:38 PM PST by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: Isara
To paraphrase Al Davis, "Just win, baby. And build the wall"

Then all things are possible.

54 posted on 01/13/2016 2:14:50 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: VanDeKoik

I think the point they are trying to make here is that with his billions Trump has admitted he can sway political view points. So where are Trump’s SuperPACs promoting conservative, or even Republican, causes? Where are his Americans first policies within his companies? Where’s his assertion that all of his companies will henceforth use e-verify? Why did he feel it necessary to use foreign labor in his hotels and casinos? Where’s his “Trump Foundation for Veterans”?

When we don’t have a record of public service to comb through, we have to rely on statements made by a candidate. When those stated positions are unclear or in constant flux, how are we to properly decide if the candidate in question is fit to serve?


55 posted on 01/13/2016 2:19:19 PM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: VanDeKoik

It’s not a matter of inconvenience. I cannot think of any Senator in the last 100 years who took on the entire body repeatedly as a freshmen.

Your line about “greatest outsider” is a weak strawman attack. I merely pointed out to you that accusing Cruz of being an insider is inaccurate at best.

If you think that Cruz should have been able to somehow ram through bills in opposition to almost all the other members - well that’s kind of unreasonable don’t you think?

Who has ever before called the majority leader a flat out liar? Who else actually spent all night filibustering.... ug.


56 posted on 01/13/2016 2:22:23 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (Cruz / West 2016)
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To: Isara

Until some other Republican stakes out a position against taking Syrian refugees, amnesty, and bad trade deals, Trump will continue to lead.


57 posted on 01/13/2016 2:24:22 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Will88

Trump has a documented lifelong history of flip-flopping on issues, principles and values dear to conservatives and yet Cruz’s prior positions make him worthy of your distrust?


58 posted on 01/13/2016 2:24:26 PM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Isara

Decent article.


59 posted on 01/13/2016 2:28:48 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (Obama hates the three Cs: Christianity, Constitution, and capitalism.)
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To: AHerald
rump has a documented lifelong history of flip-flopping on issues, principles and values dear to conservatives and yet Cruz’s prior positions make him worthy of your distrust?

Cruz has been very inconsistent on key issues since he announced his candidacy, and especially since Trump announced three months after Cruz and changed the dynamics of the race.

I go by what they've said since announcing, and Trump has been far more consistent than Cruz.

60 posted on 01/13/2016 2:29:44 PM PST by Will88
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