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I was hoping to use this article as a vehicle to deconstruct what we are being told.

I don't buy the official story and hope old sailors and specops guys can help debunk:

There no way two US Riverine Patrol Boats lost communications. They have UHF and VHF radios at least, probably HF too. There may have been mobile satcom aboard.

What were two small boats doing 50 miles offshore? That's weird.

If there was any intelligence equipment aboard, the Iranians will not release them anytime soon.

So, were these guys in routine transit from Kuwait to Bahrain (250miles?), lost sight of land, turned off their GPS, broke down and drifted to Iranian waters, confronted by Iranian fast boats...and forced ashore without a single call home?

Really?

1 posted on 01/12/2016 3:42:54 PM PST by Mariner
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“They ran into some type of an issue”

The official explanation.


2 posted on 01/12/2016 3:44:45 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Irresponsible Rules of Engagement..?


3 posted on 01/12/2016 3:45:43 PM PST by gaijin
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“Yeah, but they’re small ships.”


4 posted on 01/12/2016 3:45:49 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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It’s safe to say that was a SpecOps mission gone bad. Any mission you can come back from, though, isn’t *all* bad.


5 posted on 01/12/2016 3:45:49 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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We’re “scrambling”? Really?

This is serious BS.

Riverine boats are small...but generally armed to the teeth, and fast.

If there were two and one started drifting, why didn’t the other one tow it to safety?

Or, if things started getting dicey, why didn’t the guys on the one get on the other and high tail it?

Failing all of that, why didn’t they call for help and then light up the approaching Iranian craft?

something is seriously not right about this story. One day we will know what it is.

This is crazy.

When the Iranians attempted to phase Reagan in the 1980s, he blew the hell out of the Iranian Navy in a day. Google Operation Preying Mantis.

We have a rag tag, coastal defense force taking US sailors prisoner?

Give them 8 hours to give us EVERYTHING back, and then unleash hell.


7 posted on 01/12/2016 3:48:02 PM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Scramble to what? Give them the Ronald Reagan in tribute?


9 posted on 01/12/2016 3:50:16 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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August 2015...

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From Real Clear Politics, Sept 10, 2015...

"In a 2014 New Yorker interview, Obama said his goal was to create a 'new equilibrium' in the Middle East.

In the short run, at least, his signature diplomatic undertaking can be counted on to bring more violence to this volatile region.

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, as the [Obama-Putin Iran deal] agreement is formally known, provides the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism an infusion of somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 billion of unfrozen assets and a great deal more of continuing revenues as businesses and governments around the world rush to profit from oil-and-gas-rich Iran's reintegration into the world economy.

The agreement relaxes the international isolation of the Islamic Republic and ratifies Tehran's status as a nuclear threshold state. And it relieves restrictions on Iran's acquisition of weapons, including ballistic missiles. ..."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/10/iran_deal_throws_sparks_on_mideast_tinderbox_128034.html

11 posted on 01/12/2016 3:52:11 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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If you join Obamas military, you will be sent on stupid misions, or will be abandoned to the enemy.

That was Benghazi, and that is now, as we see.


13 posted on 01/12/2016 3:53:32 PM PST by gaijin
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“When they encountered Iranian naval vessels”

That’s different from “had mechanical troubles and drifted into their island”.

One thing you can be sure of, if it makes the Democrats look bad, they’ll be busy covering up.


14 posted on 01/12/2016 3:56:29 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Has the teleprompter issued a statement yet?


16 posted on 01/12/2016 3:57:34 PM PST by sphinx
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Look at the bright side in about a year we get a new President

They will be sent home then

this will turn out like under carter nothing will be done


17 posted on 01/12/2016 3:57:51 PM PST by mouser (Run the rats out its the only chance we have)
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The two US Navy boats did not fail simultaneously.

They were where they were and when approached by Iranian military, surrendered.

Beyond that nothing else is known or will ever be known.

They will not be released unless more concessions by the US are made.

Obama and his administration with lie about every aspect of the situation.


19 posted on 01/12/2016 3:58:21 PM PST by Eddie01 (mmmm Donate!)
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How stupid is Obama after what happened at Benghazi?

Does this stupid shit President never learn a lesson?


20 posted on 01/12/2016 3:58:26 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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But... Cheese! John Kerry is tweeting about cheese! Everything must be under control and going well.

Never mind that he has relatives loyal to Iran.


21 posted on 01/12/2016 3:58:43 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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Kuwait to Bahrain straight line by air is 257 miles.
Wikipedia syas the the riverine craft have a range of 144 miles.


22 posted on 01/12/2016 4:00:34 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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What is everybody freaking out about? Obama said there is no existential threat to the U.S. GM is strong! Unemployment is at 5%!

(Gets up from prayer rug)

23 posted on 01/12/2016 4:02:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Per Gateway Pundit:

“BREAKING: Iran Captures- Detains 2 US Ships…
UPDATE: ARRESTS 10 US Sailors – Confiscates Equipment”


33 posted on 01/12/2016 4:17:00 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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US officials scramble after Iran takes two Navy ships into custody

When you act like an effeminate P*ssy, the world will treat you like an effeminate P*ssy.

36 posted on 01/12/2016 4:20:36 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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What if 0bama announces the release of the sailors during his state of the union speech. Wouldn’t that make 0bama look good. I would not put anything past Kerry and 0bama.


44 posted on 01/12/2016 4:29:30 PM PST by forgotten man
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Any Hellfires on-board?


51 posted on 01/12/2016 4:42:06 PM PST by stboz
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