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50 years later, disagreements over young Trump’s military academy record
Washington Post ^ | 10 Jan 2016 | Michael E. Miller

Posted on 01/10/2016 7:40:46 AM PST by mandaladon

From the moment 17-year-old Donald Trump was named a captain for his senior year at New York Military Academy, he ordered the officers under his command to keep strict discipline. Shoes had to be shined. Beds had to be made. Underclassmen had to spring to attention.

Then, a month into Trump’s tenure in the fall of 1963, came an abrupt change.

The tall, confident senior with a shock of blond hair was removed from that coveted post atop A Company and transferred to a new job on the school staff — another prestigious assignment, but one with no command responsibilities. He moved out of the barracks and into the administration building, swapping jobs with a fellow high-ranking senior who took command of Trump’s old group.

Explanations vary as to what actually happened.

In Trump’s telling, he was elevated as a reward for stellar performance. “I had total control over the cadets,” he said in a recent interview. “That’s why I got a promotion — because I did so good.”

Former cadets recall the change differently. They say school administrators transferred Trump after a freshman named Lee Ains complained of being hazed by a sergeant under Trump’s command. School officials, those cadets say, were concerned that Trump’s style of delegating leadership responsibilities while spending a lot of time in his room, away from his team, allowed problems to fester.

“They felt he wasn’t paying attention to his other officers as closely as he should have,” said Ains, who lives in Connecticut and works in the aerospace industry.

Bill Specht, the cadet who switched places with Trump, recalled an administrator telling him about the hazing incident and saying that “the school has decided that they are going to make a switch.”

The incident, previously unreported, offered an early glimpse into a pattern that would follow Trump through much of his life and has been evident in his rise as a leading Republican presidential candidate. Often the center of controversy, he finds a way to emerge by declaring victory and claiming success, even if the facts are more complicated and some people around him are left with sour feelings.


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To: mandaladon

Wow. Digging up gossip from 50 years ago when he was a teenager? Really?
How about going after some lefty politicians once!?


41 posted on 01/10/2016 9:13:53 AM PST by vpintheak (Death before disarmament!)
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To: 4rcane

“So how well did Trump do academically? Back then IQ test wasn’t a tamboo so he must’ve taken it”

This has been public for some time. Trump’s IQ is reported to be 156...genius.


42 posted on 01/10/2016 9:14:48 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: sitetest

“Also, I’d bet a lot of the note holders in his various corporate bankruptcies and defaults weren’t so happy.”


I hope you do realize these were Chap. 11 reorganization BKO’s where the creditors get paid.

A legal opinion:

Law Dictionary: How is Donald Trump Able to File for Bankruptcy So Many Times? The answer is HE DIDN’T!

http://thelawdictionary.org/article/how-is-donald-trump-able-to-file-for-bankruptcy-so-many-times/

Written by James Hirby | Fact checked by The Law Dictionary staff

People might ask “How is Donald Trump able to file for bankruptcy so many times?” The answer is “He didn’t.” Trump himself has never filed for bankruptcy. His corporations have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy four times. By filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, the corporation is allowed to continue running while restructuring and reducing its debt. By allowing the business to continue, employees still have their jobs and the business is still making money. Corporate debts still need to be repaid but they may be reduced. The corporation must develop a repayment plan and corporate budget. Both must be approved by the creditors and by the bankruptcy court.


43 posted on 01/10/2016 9:19:12 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: mandaladon
Did he give one a wedgie?
44 posted on 01/10/2016 9:25:19 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: ladyjane

Hahahaha Great point!


45 posted on 01/10/2016 9:25:33 AM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Mastador1

I guess I should have qualified. US military. Mujahideen doesn’t qualify. :0)


46 posted on 01/10/2016 9:25:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: onedoug

A regular Jocko Re Paris.


47 posted on 01/10/2016 9:29:39 AM PST by windcliff
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To: mandaladon

And yet — scrubama’’s college transcripts remain sealed. And if you even inquire about them, you are a raaaacist...


48 posted on 01/10/2016 9:30:09 AM PST by rhinohunter (The Uniparty FEARS Trump -- but it HATES Cruz)
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To: mandaladon
Trump needs to come clean.

For his own good.

49 posted on 01/10/2016 9:31:10 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: AuntB

The creditors in the bankruptcies were given equity in place of actual fixed value debt instruments. Folks who buy debt instruments of corporations are not interested in equity. Debt instrument provide regular income, preservation of capital, and liquidity.

In the case of the trump shuttle, trump just defaulted, and the creditors took over. Again, that is not what the creditors were looking for when they loaned trump’s shuttle money.


50 posted on 01/10/2016 9:37:56 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: hoosiermama

“”Lifelong friends is a term not used by O or HRC””

Boy! Is that the truth....Not one person has come forward to speak about their great “friend”, Barack or Hillary. But neither did anyone come forward to say Bill Clinton was their best friend.

The only thing close to approaching long ago friendships was some female getting a prime contract (millions) on the obamacare website who is/was a friend of obozo’s wife!


51 posted on 01/10/2016 9:58:16 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

OboO wife spent so much time In The Jesse Robinson Jackson home the siblings called her Sis They are related back in the Friends Plantation area. Which means she is also related to his half Bro Noah who is doing life for his involvement with the black muslim street gang founded by a Mexican drug cartel. Obama “organized “ the community they controlled.
Said Gang was involved with drugs, male/female prosititution, murder for hire and domestic terrorism financed by Kadaffi through FerretCON ( who converted them to Islam en masse so they could plan their activities without government involvement in their “temple”.

Most importantly they were all close until Noah was sent up


52 posted on 01/10/2016 10:05:51 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: mkjessup

We know absolutely nothing about Obama life.


53 posted on 01/10/2016 10:14:46 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Maelstorm
Oh my. Talk about desperate. Attacking Trump based on hearsay back when he was in military school? Just lame.


Yes, enough of this hearsay - time for a type written memo to be picked up behind Kinkos....:^)

54 posted on 01/10/2016 10:17:21 AM PST by az_gila
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To: mandaladon

Wow.
They found so much information about Trump but never cared about Obama’s schooling.
Why is that?


55 posted on 01/10/2016 10:26:50 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: GBA
Not many people get to work out leadership principles, cause and effect, the hows and whys of success and failure, while still in high school.

Everything I needed to know about leadership I learned as a Patrol Leader in the Boy Scouts.

Nice summation.

56 posted on 01/10/2016 10:53:56 AM PST by Ace's Dad (Proud grandpa of a "Brit Chick" named Poppy Loucks (Call sign "Popsickle").)
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To: mkjessup

Post of the day.


57 posted on 01/10/2016 10:58:45 AM PST by Man from Oz
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To: mandaladon

This was 52 years ago when he was 17! WHO CARES?


58 posted on 01/10/2016 11:03:19 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: mandaladon

” his fame as a real estate mogul, reality TV star and White House contender. Even at an academy renowned for imposing strict standards on its cadets, Trump often managed to play by his own rules. He often left campus on weekends and drew the envy of fellow students for his habit of bringing attractive women to the school. “

Well, just damn...it...


59 posted on 01/10/2016 11:31:04 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: 4rcane

“Back then IQ test wasn’t a tamboo so he must’ve taken it”

“Tamboo”???

LOL


60 posted on 01/10/2016 11:31:56 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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