Posted on 01/09/2016 3:03:08 PM PST by TBBT
OTTUMWA, Iowa — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump escalated his criticism of GOP rival Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) here in Iowa Saturday, painting him as a political follower beholden to pro-oil special interests and the donor class.
Trump’s strategy: to raise further questions about Cruz’s stance on ethanol— an important industry for voters in the Hawkeye State — in the final weeks before the Feb. 1 caucuses. Cruz has faced renewed scrutiny over his opposition to the 2005 Renewable Fuel Standard, which requires gasoline to be blended with amounts of corn ethanol and is set to expire in 2022.
“As you know, my primary opponent in Iowa — only in Iowa, because Ted actually isn’t do very well in New Hampshire, but in Iowa he’s doing well — was totally opposed to ethanol and the ethanol industry because he’s with the oil industry. He’s from Texas, I guess that makes sense,†Trump said.
The real estate mogul’s criticism comes amid an escalating battle between the two candidates for the top spot in polls of Iowa voters. A Fox News survey of Iowa voters had Cruz leading Trump among likely GOP caucusgoers, 27 percent to 23 percent.
[‘When Ethanol Attacks,’ starring Ted Cruz.]
While touting his own support for the industry, Trump said he believes Cruz’s position on ethanol has undergone “a very big change.†Cruz has faced scrutiny in recent days for his one-time opposition to the RFS; he has softened his position in recent years, instead calling for legislation that would gradually phase out the requirement.
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You're right.
I know that there are some reasonable Trump supporters as opposed to the shrieking fangirls, and I would hope they are seriously reconsidering their choice at this point...Trump is STILL saying Cruz has an eligibility problem:
Ohhh, lol, that’s rich, the Trump supporters embarrass themselves 24/7 every day here, but the problem is, they don’t realise it and if they do, they don’t care.
Do you understand what LYING is?
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I do, its what you are doing when you denigh Cruz’s has been flip-flopping.
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Well Cruz was FOR phasing out the ethanol standards over a 5-year period (thus ending them while allowing a period for adjustment by producers) and he is STILL FOR phasing out those standards over the same 5-year period. But, by all means, continue to live in your fantasy world and refuse to accept reality.
It’s from actual on the ground observations in Iowa.
Need to get your facts straight and information correct before you make a post like that and embarrass your self.
Nobody ever said life was fair. :-)
Well, one thing I DO comprehend CORRECTLY is that Trump is in favor of the government micromanaging the use of ethanol in gasoline and micromanaging how much ethanol is placed in gasoline.
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If you call that comprehending Trumps position, I say again: Comprehension is not your thing.
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Well, JoSixChip, enlighten me... what specifically IS Trump’s position vis-a-vis ethanol?
I was unaware, am glad you posted that. I grew up in Iowa. I lived in Altoona, Iowa outside of Des Moines when Altoona was less than 1,500 people and "downtown" Altoona was one intersection with a stoplight that blinked Red (turned into a 4 way stop) after 9pm. Small town Iowa in the 1970's.
Corn planted post to post, as dense as you could get it during the Jimmy Carter years and then the family farms all got in trouble as corn prices plummeted and families lost everything. (At least, that's what I remember as a teenager at the time.)
Iowan's are good people at heart, good God fearing people --- but they're addicted to Ethanol. Subsidies ALWAYS artificially inflate prices by setting artificial price floors and that in a nutshell is the problem here.
Won't say I know the answer to simply eliminating Ethanol subsidies and the financial pain that's going to cause because I don't (know the answer to that.) I will say that ETHANOL DOES NOTHING to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. NOTHING.
My personal vehicle gets 16mpg/city, 22mpg/highway on Gas w/10% Ethanol. When I'm able to get PURE GAS with 0% Ethanol, I get just over 18mpg/city and almost 25mpg/highway with it.
My personal vehicle is a 2003 GMC Envoy SLT with the 4200 I-6, throttle body and cold air induction. I have just over 90,000 miles on it. Without going and looking at the door sticker, it's somewhere around 5,500 pounds, has about 300HP and 300 foot pounds of torque. It's big, it's heavy, all the torque is at the low end so it's a pretty good vehicle to do the following comparison with, and I've recently had it on a road trip so these numbers are current. A vehicle like this gets its best gas mileage right around 65mph and letting the computer (cruise control) control the throttle. Above 70mph, the gas mileage drops pretty quickly.
On a full tank of gas (20 gallons) with 10% Ethanol, I'll get @ 420-440 miles while keeping the cruise control on. Hills/terrain obviously impact the mileage. Typically I'll see 22mpg.
On a full tank of gas with 0% ethanol, I'll get 492 miles (24.6mpg) while keeping the cruise control on and keeping the speed under 70mph.
The math doesn't lie: 20 gallons of PURE, UNADULTERATED Gasoline goes FURTHER than Gasoline w/10% Ethanol.
Ethanol DOES NOT reduce our dependency on foreign oil. Never has, never will. Nor would Ethanol EVER extend our own oil supplies. How could it when I have to burn MORE fuel to get the same physical miles that I'd otherwise get without it?
And then there's all the energy it takes to grow the corn and harvest it, then the fuel it takes to convert corn to ethanol which makes the energy return of Ethanol so mathematically, horribly bad that it makes ZERO sense other than politically, do use Ethanol in the first place.
But that's just me I suppose.
I think you need to check what you posted...so you don’t continue to embarrass yourself.
Ohhh lookie and see here folks ..., a “ ME TOO “ Trump supporter trying to sound relevant, more like pathetic..
So, couldn’t figure it out? That’s ok.
What people are you talking about here ?
Rush Limbaugh stated on his show last week that is isn’t Conservatives who listen to talk radio who Trump gets his most support from, but rather most of his support is coming from Blue Collar Democrats.
I have no clue.
Yes indeed, go ask Ted Cruz’s Senate camapign opponent that attacked him for the Senate seat in Texas....
Candidate #2 is Cruz and you can’t criticize Cruz — he is too pure, too righteous and if anyone criticizes Cruz that is proof in itself that he is pure.
Well, JoSixChip, enlighten me... what specifically IS Trump’s position vis-a-vis ethanol?
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Probably the same as it is for any other agricultural subsidy. I don’t hear you whining about sugar or wheat subsidies.
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Well, JoSixChip, that’s because this thread is about ethanol and government subsidies and mandates of that product and its use. The thread is NOT about sugar and wheat subsidies...although, down the road, Trump will certainly get opportunities to PANDER in those areas also. When that happens, we can discuss those PANDERS.
By the way, I’m not sure you understand what “whining” is.
Ohhh, I see now, the revolving door logic trick, still pathetic.
Actually, it took about 15 seconds, but hey ! Who’s counting....
It sure did have a effect otherwise you would not have responded in a pathetic manner.
Still don’t see it, I guess.
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