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Top Democrat: More Women Would Support Hillary If They Loved Abortion (Wasserman Schultz)
Daily Caller ^ | 01/06/2016 | Chuck Ross

Posted on 01/06/2016 1:49:15 PM PST by presidio9

Young women are not as enthusiastic as older women are about Hillary Clinton because they just don’t care enough about the abortion issue, Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in an interview with The New York Times.

The Florida congresswoman also asserted that she’s been on the receiving end of harsh criticism over her leadership style because she’s a woman.

One of the themes of the Democratic primary race so far is the support among young voters for Clinton’s main Democratic rival, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders . But in addition to the generational divide is a gender disparity. More young women are supporting Sanders than are supporting Clinton.

According to a poll released last month by Harvard’s Institute of Politics, 40 percent of women aged 18 to 29 support the 73-year-old Sanders. Thirty-eight said they support Clinton. The gender-generation gap was also the subject of a New York Times article published last month.


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To: Theodore R.

Goldwater married an UBER LEFTIST WOMAN!


41 posted on 01/06/2016 3:27:41 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: presidio9

Man if abortions were done with guns, liberals would be the biggest 2a supporters around.


42 posted on 01/06/2016 3:28:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ann Archy

Mostly on the East Coast that is filled with New Yorkers and New Jerseyites.....screaming banshees in every store including the grocery stores!! Four out of five abortions in NYC are black or Hispanic babies.

43 posted on 01/06/2016 3:42:02 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

44 posted on 01/06/2016 3:43:37 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Democrats, It’s what’s in their pants.


45 posted on 01/06/2016 3:44:12 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: presidio9
I, for one, am very concerned that, given the wrong set of circumstances, we could very easily be looking at a situation where it is perfectly legal in this country for a woman to abort her baby (for any reason)

We are already in that situation and have been since 1973. Read Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton sometime. A mother can have here child killed for any reason or no reason at all up until birth as long as the killing is committed by a licensed physician. It's abortion-killing on demand.

46 posted on 01/06/2016 3:47:53 PM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond
As far as I know, there are only seven states (and DC) that, like Canada and China (the only two of the world's developed nations) have no restrictions on how late a woman may abort her baby. You are correct, however, that more than half will allow abortions with a doctor's consent -and that most of those allow late term abortions for mental health reasons.

As we have discussed on this thread, I believe that Donald Trump's antics have given many Americans the incentive to take a second, and more realistic, look at the question of immigration. Perhaps people would do so on the question of abortion if more of our candidates were willing to talk about it.

47 posted on 01/06/2016 4:03:21 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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48 posted on 01/06/2016 4:04:11 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
The foreign policy and immigration debates that are now taking place are long overdue and ultimately constructive. But, for me anyway, no issue will ever be more important than the sanctity of human life, and the destructive effect that ignoring it has had on our culture.

Couldn't agree with you more. Louisiana was the most pro-life state in the nation for six years in a row under Bobby Jindal. And you probably saw the lack of respect he garnered across the internet.

So that's one big problem right there; the biggest pro-life guys [Santorum and Huckabee too] receive little attention from voters.

This is a quote from [the late] Fr. John A. Hardon:

"There is no stopping abortion without an ocean of grace from Jesus Christ. No way will human means stop abortion. The principal source of this grace is the Holy Eucharist."

As a Catholic it's hard not to agree with him on this score, yet the Eucharist is not even processed out from the start of the various March for Life protests in Washington.

Here's a link to a story I came upon today, though, that follows FJH's thoughts exactly, and I pray we can gather more priests to do this; more than once or twice in four years: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/denver-priest-pulls-out-the-big-guns-on-planned-parenthood-says-mass-on-the
49 posted on 01/06/2016 4:48:01 PM PST by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: mlizzy
"There is no stopping abortion without an ocean of grace from Jesus Christ. No way will human means stop abortion. The principal source of this grace is the Holy Eucharist."

All of which goes a long way to explaining Mrs. Clinton's sentiments in Post 22.

50 posted on 01/06/2016 4:52:50 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: mlizzy
So that's one big problem right there; the biggest pro-life guys [Santorum and Huckabee too] receive little attention from voters.

And please allow me to add something:

I have not picked a candidate yet. There are things that I like about Donald Trump, but now that George Pataki is gone, he is clearly the least dependable candidate when it comes to the abortion fight.

As recently as this summer he told reporters that his sister would make a "phenomenal" Supreme Court Justice.

Maryanne Trump Barry is the New Jersey Circuit Court judge who called a law against partial birth abortion "a desperate attempt to undermine Roe v. Wade."

Like a lot of people, Mr. Trump seems to have evolved his position on abortion, and I commend him for this. But I need to hear more about his plans to address this subject before I will seriously consider voting for him in a primary.

51 posted on 01/06/2016 5:00:18 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Folks just don’t have time to support abortion rights any more . . . they are too too busy making sure that boys can use girl’s bathrooms. It’s a priority issue.


52 posted on 01/06/2016 5:06:12 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: presidio9
With the qualification that 'an unjust law is no law at all', I offer the following as to the 'legal' status of abortion-killing in America:

"... Like many other states, the state of Nevada has chosen to restrict abortion in the last trimester by only permitting abortions if "there is a substantial risk that the continuance of the pregnancy would endanger the life of the patient or would gravely impair the physical or mental health of the patient."[1]

But this restriction is a restriction in name only. For the Supreme Court so broadly defined 'health' in Roe's companion decision, Doe v. Bolton (1973), that for all intents and purposes the current law in every state except Missouri and Pennsylvania (where the restrictions allowed by Webster have been enacted into law) allows for abortion on demand.

In Bolton the court ruled that 'health' must be taken in its broadest possible medical context, and must be defined 'in light of all factors—physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age-relevant to the well being of the patient. All these factors relate to health'[2]

Since all pregnancies have consequences for a woman's emotional and family situation, the court's health provision has the practical effect of legalizing abortion up until the time of birth-if a woman can convince her physician that she needs the abortion to preserve her 'emotional health.'

This is why the Senate Judiciary Committee, after much critical evaluation of the current law in light of the court's opinions, concluded that "no significant legal barriers of any kind whatsoever exist today in the United States for a woman to obtain an abortion for any reason during any stage of her pregnancy."[3]

A number of legal scholars have come to the same conclusion, offering comments and observations such as the following:

In actual effect, Roe v. Wade judicially created abortion on demand in the United States.[4]

The concept of 'health,' as defined by the Supreme Court in Doe v. Bolton, includes all medical, psychological, social, familial, and economic factors which might potentially inspire a decision to procure an abortion. As such, 'health' abortion is indistinguishable from elective abortion. Thus, until a more narrow definition of 'health' is obtained, it may not be possible to limit effectively the number of abortions performed.[5]

After viability the mother's life or health (which presumably is to be defined very broadly indeed, so as to include what many might regard as the mother's convenience...) must, as a matter of constitutional law, take precedence over...the fetus's life...[6] (emphasis in original).

It is safe to say, therefore, that in the first six months of pregnancy a woman can have an abortion for no reason, but in the last three months she can have it for any reason. This is abortion-on-demand."

Abortion - What is Legal in the U.S. and Why?

Cordially,

53 posted on 01/06/2016 5:50:25 PM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: presidio9

CA is No. 1; FL, No. 3, in another list.


54 posted on 01/06/2016 6:38:46 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: mlizzy

Jindal helped perhaps inadvertently to groom a liberal Democrat as his successor; like GWB did with Obama. Jindal refused to endorse Republican David Vitter in the 2015 governor’s race.


55 posted on 01/06/2016 6:40:26 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: presidio9

FL is I believe some 48,000 in 2011, probably the majority in the southern portion of the state.


56 posted on 01/06/2016 6:42:26 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: trisham

http://abortionclinics.com/state/wyoming-abortion-clinics/

Wyoming has no abortion clinics, according to the above. It suggests going to Boulder, CO.


57 posted on 01/06/2016 6:48:19 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: presidio9
Meanwhile, four Supreme Court Justices are over the age of 70, three of those were appointed by Republican presidents, and at least two of these are dependably pro-life.Meanwhile, four Supreme Court Justices are over the age of 70, three of those were appointed by Republican presidents, and at least two of these are dependably pro-life.

I take your point, which is quite daunting until one considers that "70 is the new 60" and that AJ's Scalia and Thomas look like they'll be good for a while, and AJ Alito is junior. CJ Roberts can choke on a cranberry AFAIC as soon as a Republican President takes office. Yes, he was extorted or blackmailed or whatever ..... but he has to stand up to partisan pressure and deliver, that's why Justices are paid the big bucks.
58 posted on 01/07/2016 2:48:21 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: presidio9

If I were a Dem, I’d be begging her to not represent my side of any argument in any public manner, LOL


59 posted on 01/07/2016 2:53:16 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Ann Archy
Not that you have a personal opinion or anything .....

8^}

60 posted on 01/07/2016 2:54:55 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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