[The Iceman Cometh]

A plant from the government will fire the first shot at the police. Just sayin’....

[blueunicorn6]

If the government can take years to help Veterans, then they can take years to work through this peacefully.

[wideawake]

Less than 1% of Americans sympathize with the notion that the Bundys and their friends have the right to take and use taxpayer-owned land.

Their supposedly "Constitutional" theory about their "right" to claim land they do not own is laughable.

Anyone who thinks this is a hill to die on is a mark.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

But it will.

They have the wrong skin color.

[squarebarb]

The same hate-filled trolls who infested the comments sections during the Bundy ranch incident are showing up again in the comments sections in the MSM articles/sites on this one. Sometimes they are even saying exactly the same thing. Such as calling the ranchers who lease federal lands ‘welfare queens’ and other identical phrasing. Odd. Who hires them?

There is a desperate need to investigate the BLM and its land deals, among other things.

Maybe this will bring attention to them. During the Bundy standoff one real estate agent had a YouTube video concerning his researches -— he was just looking for land to buy/sell. He found one ten-acre piece in the middle of the desert -— no structures on it, no water -— that the BLM bought for $700,000 from some business entity that he then could not trace.

So if ‘Occupy’ could get all that happy admiring coverage, why not these guys?

Never mind.

[cripplecreek]

This is where authorities need to show patience, and not do anything which ends up endangering the lives of anyone. Bundy's group isn't hurting people, and, at worst, is guilty of trespassing. Yes, they're armed but that doesn't mean SWAT needs to go rolling into the refuge or a drone be used to end the standoff. That would be the worst thing to happen, and bring back memories of Waco and Ruby Ridge. Federal and local authorities will just have to wait out Ammon Bundy and the rest of the occupiers, until they decide to leave. It may take a while, but it's well worth it if no lives are lost. Bundy's group needs to go, but having it happen through a haze of gun smoke and bodies is a bad idea.

Bingo.

[2banana]

Neither should have Waco...

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

The Constitution is pretty clear. The Feds were never supposed to maintain control of lands or structures beyond those that are necessary for them to perform the functions enumerated in the Constitution. READ THE FEDERALIST. Control of land is ABSOLUTE CONTROL. Jurisdiction is POWER. Central power is exactly what the Constitution was trying to PREVENT.

[MarMema]

http://savethehammonds.com/

Please sign the petition. Thanks.

[hreardon]

Thing that bothers me most about this deal was that the Hammonds were tried twice for the same crime. First, they were tried for arson, convicted and served time, then later for ‘terrorism’ for which they are now supposed to go back and serve more time. Really not many legal details about this, best I could find was here:

http://www.northernag.net/AGNews/AgNewsStories/TabId/657/ArtMID/2927/ArticleID/5346/Oregon-Ranchers-Declared-Terrorists-and-Sent-Back-to-Prison.aspx

[Eagles6]

Hillary and Bill had Waco and got away with it. soetoro is ramping up the "fundamental transformation" in his final year and needs something to make him look tough.

Taking down a few score of "White, racist terrorists" clinging to their guns, Bibles and the Constitution just might be the ticket.

[Captain Compassion]

These guys are out in the boonies. No need for any confrontation. Leave them alone. Winter and boredom will do the job of host of jack booted thugs.

[TornadoAlley3]

Ignore them. They will leave.

[Elsie]

He told one news organization the federal agents would have been killed had they made the wrong move.

Just like us ordinary citizens.

[Elsie]

It’s all about the numbers on each side.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3379284/posts