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VANITY - Letter to the Governor of Virginia on decision to withdraw Concealed Carry Reciprocity.
n/a | tonight (22 Dec 15) | self

Posted on 12/22/2015 5:08:27 PM PST by Jonah Hex

Subject: Sir, you are wrong with regard to your CCP order

Sir, with all due respect, you are wrong in your decision to unilaterally withdraw CCP reciprocity with other states. While you may have concerns about their meeting Virginia's standards, the correct method of resolving a dispute is to talk about it first.

Instead, you've slapped 26 other states across the face with your decision. As a result, you've now placed Virginians...VIRGINIANS, SIR... at risk of retaliation from other states when they subsequently withdraw their reciprocity agreements with Virginia. In effect, you've placed law-abiding VIRGINIANS at risk of breaking laws. "Atlas Shrugs", anybody?

And for what, sir? For what good reason on earth did you make this decision. Because it MIGHT improve public safety? There's been no documented cases where out-of-state CCP holders have harmed any Virginians. Are you placing law-abiding Virginians at risk to reduce their risk? Shades of "we had to burn that Vietnamese village to save it".

Or is there a political reason you're doing this? Political favors to "Mayors Against Illegal Guns", perhaps? Your decision certainly reeks of politics as usual.

In any case, there can be little doubt I will do what I can to work to reverse your decision within the legal system. I intend to contact my state representatives to make my opinion known on your executive decision, and will join other law-abiding citizens in bringing political and lobbying pressure to bear.

In summary, you've placed law-abiding Virginians at risk of breaking the laws, and increasing their personal risk in the hope of increasing their safety for no logical reason. Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, George Mason, and George Washington, look to the state of the Commonwealth.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; carry; ccp; concealed; permit; virginia
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Sorry, folks, I'm so pi$$ed right now, I had to do something TONIGHT. I'll follow through with my VCDL, GOA, and NRA memberships tomorrow, and start working the phones to my local reps.


Jonah

1 posted on 12/22/2015 5:08:27 PM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: Jonah Hex

You could have mentioned that the Virginia Governor is that Clinton ass-kisser POS McAuliffe.


2 posted on 12/22/2015 5:13:19 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Jonah Hex

More people die in car acidents than by firearms.

By this fact all these other states should not accept virginia drivers’ licenses.

Start playing by democrat rules. After all these other states have no idea how well virginia is teaching driving. They have a lot of different traffic laws than other states. And these dates cannot guarantee the quality of virginia drivers and the dangers they pose to their states’ citizens.


3 posted on 12/22/2015 5:23:27 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jonah Hex

Writing the governor of Virginia is a total wast of time.

You can not reason with a liberal.

In some manner, conservatives in VA need to get the legislature back in session and force his hand through legislation.

I live in NC and travel VA quite a bit. This is very bad news for me.

As for reciprocity, I thought that the legislature set the conditions, not the governor nor his lackey.

In the meantime, VA still has open carry. I have never liked to open carry, but where I go , I go armed.

Liberals are such jerks. They must ruin everyone else’s pleasure to get any pleasures of their own.


4 posted on 12/22/2015 5:25:01 PM PST by old curmudgeon (.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Dates should have been States.


5 posted on 12/22/2015 5:25:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jonah Hex

When the governor travels out of state, they should force his armed security detail to disarm.


6 posted on 12/22/2015 5:27:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Jonah Hex

So, next year when I go to the TransAm race at VIR, I will make my lodging and meals business in Roxboro, NC.

When are these stupid leftists going to try and understand the simple laws of physics?


7 posted on 12/22/2015 5:29:07 PM PST by mazda77
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To: Jonah Hex

McAuliff is a Clintonista, and none of this should come as a surprise.

So the question becomes, can you (meaning CCW permit holders and gun lovers in general) generate enough support in the legislature to remove the Punk and his AG?

There was some other BS regarding guns that McAuliff wanted to do last summer, but I have forgotten what it was.


8 posted on 12/22/2015 5:35:43 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Jonah Hex
This man has unilateraly changed the status of a certification possessed by thousands of people in other jurisdictions, as well as changed the status of people from his jurisdiction in theirs, overnight, by decree.

It will likely not only NOT save lives,it places those who carry on their way through Virginia who previously did so legally at risk from all comers, be they criminal or police.

Typical Liberal. The unintended consequences to people who are not a problem far outweigh the likely effects on those who are the problem--assuming that the objective was not to create a whole new group of on-paper, background checked, no previous record, new felony criminals in the first place.

Any state on the list should require his security detail to disarm or place them under arrest the second they cross the border.

9 posted on 12/22/2015 5:46:18 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Jonah Hex
Cities,counties,states shouldn't be able to regulate firearms any more than they should be able to regulate the practice of religion,the publishing of a newspaper or the right of peaceful assembly.

States rights are important with many issues but *not* issues like the First Amendment,the Second Amendment or the Fifth Amendment (among other things).

10 posted on 12/22/2015 5:50:27 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Jonah Hex
What the liberals do not fear is any worthwhile retribution. Elections are a long way off and resorting to the courts is the ONLY measure you have available.

Or so the liberals think.

A day is coming, and possibly quite soon, where freedom loving Americans are going to rise up and throw off this oppressive government......by force.

There won't be enough lamp posts for all the rope needed to purge the country of the 'progressives'.

11 posted on 12/22/2015 5:55:50 PM PST by Wizdum (Who will remove this stone from my shoe?)
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To: old curmudgeon
As for reciprocity, I thought that the legislature set the conditions, not the governor nor his lackey.

They do. The problem, as I understand it, is that one of the conditions set by the legislature is that the reciprocal state must have requirements that are as strict or stricter than Virginia's in other words, if the other state would grant a permit to someone to whom Virginia would not, that state is not eligible for reciprocity). Of course, because different states structure their laws differently, determining whether another state's laws are as strict as Virginia's is entirely subjective, which gives the governor plenty of latitude to do what he did here.

With a sane governor, it's not really a problem. But now....

12 posted on 12/22/2015 6:35:46 PM PST by dem bums
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To: Jonah Hex

No matter how wrong, Virginians can no longer get anything right!


13 posted on 12/22/2015 6:53:55 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Jonah Hex

I can abbreviate that letter for you:

“Dear Carpetbagging SOB,

FU”


14 posted on 12/22/2015 7:08:37 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: caver

And not a native Virginian just like Senator Warner and former Representative Moran. Democrats flooded Northern Virginia with government workers from liberal and mostly northern states. Colleges in the area and political correctness put the nail in the coffin for conservatives. NOVA is full of highly paid citizens who only care about their false sense of importance and getting more of the pie. My 25 years in the area felt like being in jail.


15 posted on 12/22/2015 7:26:11 PM PST by Boomer One ( ToUses)
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To: Jonah Hex

McAwful doesn’t give a rat’s behind for Virginians who legally carry guns. Like his idols, the Clintons and Obola, he is only concerned with the citizens that voted for him.


16 posted on 12/22/2015 7:34:35 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Boomer One

Just imagine.

If we could install a truly constitutional government that performed only those duties placed on it by the Constitution, how all of the leeches in DC would lose their jobs.

Then there would be a mass exodus of crooks and thieves from Virginia. They would go somewhere else to steal their money.

And Virginia would again be the conservative state it has been and should be again.

One wonders how the state that brought to us people like Jefferson, Madison, Patrick Henry and so many others could have sunk so low.


17 posted on 12/22/2015 7:55:04 PM PST by old curmudgeon (.)
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To: Jonah Hex

“with all due respect”

Since no respect whatsoever is due, I don’t know what to think of that phrase.


18 posted on 12/22/2015 8:58:29 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: old curmudgeon

Proximity to DC is mostly to blame.

Also hurting us is the flight of people from Maryland, New York and Jersey.
They ruin their own home states by electing liberals then flee to northern Virginia when they get tired of paying for the government they elected.
Only problem is they remain liberal and bring their liberal habits with them.

Nine out of ten northern refugees are yankee jackasses.
My neighbor is a transplant from southern Jersey.
Luckily he is a gun loving, beer making fella who fits in nicely. A good neighbor who moved for all the right reasons.
He and his family are the one in ten you like having around.


19 posted on 12/22/2015 9:18:11 PM PST by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
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To: Jonah Hex

SO... Since I drive from Florida through the two Carolinas and Georgia to get to my Virginia destination I must now travel unprotected? Guess I won’t be seeing the family there if this decision stands!


20 posted on 12/22/2015 10:04:45 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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