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School Cancels Santa Field Trip After Mom Objects [Jewish Parent Objects]
CBSNews ^ | December 18, 2015

Posted on 12/18/2015 12:12:21 PM PST by Steelfish

CBS NEWS December 18, 2015 School Cancels Santa Field Trip After Mom Objects

SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Parents of San Jose school kids confronted a school board Thursday night after a decision to cancel a field trip to see Santa Claus followed a complaint by a Jewish mother who objected to the school-sponsored outing, CBS San Francisco station KPIX-TV reports.

The visit to Santa, along with a "Dear Santa" assignment, was a decade-long tradition at Sartorette Elementary School, part of San Jose's Cambrian School District.

Last week, the Sartorette staff informed parents the school would suspend the outing to see Santa at a local coffee shop after a Jewish mother, who identified herself only as Talia, complained to the school board that the district was celebrating one religion over others.

"We need to teach about all the holidays," Talia told KPIX-TV. "We live in a global society."

Talia said that as a result of her complaint and the decision by the school board other parents began to bully her.

"I had some parents that called me a communist, that said that I didn't want any holidays in the school," she said.

Some parents are blaming Talia for ruining Christmas.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arth; california; publicschools; sanjose; santaclaus; talia
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To: Steelfish

Yeah, this Jew gives the rest of us a bad name. I personally would not really relish my small child going on this field trip. Because it might hurt his feelings or make him be ashamed of not having the same red lotion when the rest of the class is all into it. But I wouldn’t make a stink about it; I’d talk to my child privately or even not send him, quietly.

If my child were older, he’d get it; he’d have been through enough Christmas seasons to understand it, and I’m sure it would be a fun day. No problems.

Honestly, for very young kids (k, 1st grade) it’s not a great idea to teach them equally about all religions, or to push one official one in a group of many. They need to first be assimilated into their family’s religion, and I think we can all agree on that.

And this particular trip and project is not about the Christian religion at all. So it’s not a religious thing. However, a five year old Jewish boy might feel very left out as his friends ask Santa for toys he wants too. And Santa comes to all the other houses but not his.

By the way, as a Jewish mama, I never tell my kids anything that disses Santa. I talk about him, and I say he doesn’t come to our house because that is special for the Christian kids. It’s their religion. And I make Chanukah more fun for little kids because of their exposure to the massive fun appearance of Christmas. And if they ask me if Santa is real, I do what you do: I say, “Do you think he is?” And they do, if they are young. And I say, me too. I never want them to go to their friends and say “My parent told me Santa isn’t real.”


81 posted on 12/18/2015 2:25:50 PM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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To: silverleaf

When I was working (temporary duty) in England a few years ago, I was shocked (SHOCKED!!! SHOCKED, I tell you!!!) when I found that July 4 was just another workday! How dare they not celebrate MY HOLIDAY!!!! That’s a MICROAGGRESSION!


82 posted on 12/18/2015 2:26:36 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: af_vet_1981

You are to love the sinner but shun the sin.

If you stand up for your kids they will get rolled over by the jerks.


83 posted on 12/18/2015 2:28:01 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Steelfish

I was happy to read that 30 families staged a walkout and took their kids out of school to go visit Santa, drink hot chocolate and donate gifts

the complaining mother comes across as a nutjob from her interview
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3366027/THIRTY-parents-stage-walkout-Santa-children-Jewish-mother-accused-waging-war-Christmas-asking-school-cancel-annual-field-trip.html


84 posted on 12/18/2015 2:29:13 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: af_vet_1981

Thor was on that documentary Stargate: SG-1 ...

He’s real.


85 posted on 12/18/2015 2:29:41 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Yaelle

Red lotion = religion What a funny apple typo.


86 posted on 12/18/2015 2:31:02 PM PST by Yaelle (Since PC is not actually "correct," it should be renamed Political Pandering.)
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To: A CA Guy
You are to love the sinner but shun the sin. If you stand up for your kids they will get rolled over by the jerks.

You've moved from witch to jerk. I suppose that is progress. How often do you take your kids out of school to visit Santa versus how often to observe a holy day of obligation in church ? If you stand up for your kids they might get to heaven.

87 posted on 12/18/2015 2:38:54 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: A CA Guy
You are to love the sinner but shun the sin.

The language is a bit stronger than that. What were the two great commandments ? Look them up in their place of first mention to see what they mean.

88 posted on 12/18/2015 2:42:55 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: ladyjane
Careful. Can’t say any Jewish person is bad. You’ll be called an anti-Semite.

As I wrote, not much interest in doing what Jesus said during Christmas season

89 posted on 12/18/2015 2:45:25 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: impimp

Santa is a saint like all the others.

I tell my 4 yr old that Santa works for Jesus. She is fully aware of the hierarchy.


90 posted on 12/18/2015 2:57:10 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
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To: Steelfish

Today, after work, a Jewish colleague wished me Merry Christmas. I wished him the same, and then, after some thought, said “I guess I should have said Happy Hanukkah”. He laughed and said, “I celebrate all the holidays I can get.”


91 posted on 12/18/2015 3:14:38 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Am not an antisemite. Just part of the lingo I heard from a Jewish kid from N.Y. city when we were army draftees in ‘56.
Actually we all had fun with each others’ names.....that was many years before this PC CRAP.
No offense was intended nor taken. Damn, it was good back then.


92 posted on 12/18/2015 4:46:36 PM PST by Islander2 (Some of us are here because we are not all there.)
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To: af_vet_1981

No one is attacking Jews. If you’d read carefully it was about the adherents of all other religions that find Christian Christmas events offensive that it is “they” who want to prohibit and ban all of this in a Christian country. And, yes, I do go for Midnight Mass! and I say Merry Christmas, and I don’t patronize stores that say “Happy Holidays, and I do have a Christmas Tree in my house and a lighted creche.


93 posted on 12/18/2015 5:50:25 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

There’s a fine line to walk here.

When I was in 5th grade (1961) our school play was the Nativity. There was one Jewish boy in my class. The teacher cast him as a Wise Man.

His mother asked if he could have another part, so he wouldn’t be kneeling at the creche. The teacher said, “He kneels, or he’s out of the play”.

That, I thought, was too much.

In THIS case, it would have been most reasonable for the Jewish kid to skip the field trip, Canceling was too much.


94 posted on 12/18/2015 5:57:47 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: xrmusn
Then 'they' can whine about disrupting THEIR live to have to pick the kid up.

Precisely my point. If they want to buck the trend, they should be the one who "pay" for it. Why should the taxpayers be inconvenienced and forced to babysit their child because some whiner doesn't like the consequences of their own actions.

95 posted on 12/18/2015 6:12:06 PM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Hannukah is Festival of Lights. Maccabees eight days of oil, etc. Jesus went to the Feast of Lights.


96 posted on 12/19/2015 6:36:00 AM PST by madison10 (If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter)
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To: Steelfish
"Time we Christians tell Jews, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, that this IS a Christian nation and if you don’t like it there is North Korea.

2 posted on December 18, 2015 at 3:13:50 PM EST by Steelfish No one is attacking Jews.

Is Steelfish no one ?

North Korea is synonymous for "death camps."

If you’d read carefully it was about the adherents of all other religions that find Christian Christmas events offensive that it is “they” who want to prohibit and ban all of this in a Christian country.

False; it was vitriol against a Jewess, called all sorts of names afterward by the disciples the thread and comments you posted attracted, even going after her children with antisemitic slurs. It was about a ten year old tradition of coerced commercial enterprise hosting Santa Claus on the public school time and the public school dime in lieu of ordinary curriculum.

Instead of this being a story of Christian grace and redemption, it is the story of North Korean death camps for Jews, and others who do not agree with the state religion of commercial Santa Claus. Please think about another Jewess when you go to Midnight Mass.

97 posted on 12/19/2015 7:50:35 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Of course, the key qualifier you left out of what was posted is: “if you don’t like it here.”

In a Christian nation, we have our traditions, culture, and practices. If any other believer attempts to derail or veto these, as was the point of the news item, then this is not a country for such people. N. Korea was mentioned simply by way of an example where other nations would not put up with this kind of nonsense.

Now, if like Obama, you doubt that this is not a Christian nation, then this is a topic for another day.


98 posted on 12/19/2015 10:00:34 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
Of course, the key qualifier you left out of what was posted is: “if you don’t like it here.”

False; I copied and posted your exact words, just as you wrote them.

In a Christian nation, we have our traditions, culture, and practices. If any other believer attempts to derail or veto these, as was the point of the news item, then this is not a country for such people. N. Korea was mentioned simply by way of an example where other nations would not put up with this kind of nonsense.

False; the Constitution of the United States specifies nothing of the kind. Depending on who you intend by "we" one might argue that your Christian nations, to defend your traditions, culture, and practices killed millions in their relentless zeal. One might also argue that God has taken away your Christian kingdoms and will separate their people based on how they behaved, or misbehaved, to the least of the Messiah's brethren.

Now, if like Obama, you doubt that this is not a Christian nation, then this is a topic for another day.

Having introduced Obama, you have effectively ceded the argument, your false statements notwithstanding. Nonetheless, I do hope you have a merry and spiritual Midnight Mass. The flesh profits nothing.

99 posted on 12/19/2015 1:45:30 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: madison10
Hannukah is Festival of Lights. Maccabees eight days of oil, etc. Jesus went to the Feast of Lights.

The Messiah rededicated and sanctified the temple by his very presence. Rather than teaching their children to pray to Santa Claus for gifts, Christians should imitate Christ, and commemorate Hannukah.

And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.

John, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verses twenty two to twenty three,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

100 posted on 12/19/2015 2:01:09 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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