Posted on 12/18/2015 4:01:41 AM PST by expat_panama
...he was for amnesty before he was against it...
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...from the No. 1 defender of deportation. At the end of June, speaking to the press in Chicago and after saying he "heard you probably have 30 million" illegal aliens in America, Trump contended:
"You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that. But the bad ones, and there are bad ones, you have to get out, and you have to get them out fast."
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...Trump, interviewed by Newsmax's Ron Kessler, blasted Mitt Romney's "crazy policy of self-deportation." It was "maniacal," he said, contending it cost the Republican "all of the Latino vote" and adding "he lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country."
Trump told Kessler that the Republicans must develop comprehensive immigration reform "to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful, productive citizens of this country."
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..."The Democrats didn't have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren't mean-spirited about it. ... What they were is they were kind."
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Trump sneered, "Jeb (Bush) is a very nice person" and "Jeb said when they come across the southern border, they come as an act of love." But Trump's reference to immigrants, legal and illegal, as "people wanting to be wonderful, productive citizens of this country" sounds awfully similar.
"I have a very hard-line position,"... ..."People that have come into our country illegally, they have to go."
"They have to go" is quite a flipflop from the "you have to give them a path" position that Trump took only five and a half months ago.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...
One thing they'll bring up is the completely fake claim I've seen all over this forum - that the NYC Vietnam Memorial was conceived and built by Donald Trump when no one else cared or wanted it.
In reality, his father was shamed into making a comparatively small donation three years after the project was already begun, and little Donnie only showed up to two meetings of the committee.
His supporters will just make this stuff up. They have zero shame about it.
...”and the “good” ones don’t hAve to go to the back of the line but rather get “expedired” return. That’s touch back amnesty.
It's true. Last night a Trump supporter said "At least Trump hasn't flip-flopped during his campaign."
Think about that for a moment.
Reason doesn't work with people who've taken leave of reality.
He doesn’t now so I don’t give a damn. Cruz doesn’t but Senior Amnesty does. Neither Cruz nor anyone else but Trump will be the next president so this means nothing.
He doesn’t now so I don’t give a damn. Cruz doesn’t but Senior Amnesty does. Neither Cruz nor anyone else but Trump will be the next president so this means nothing.
you don’t mind if we have some free American elections first do you?
Fortunately we're not looking for a savior to follow, what we want is an applicant we can hire to do some management work in DC. My take is that out of the entire available job pool so far Cruz and Trump look like the best bets, but let's try not to make the final decision just yet.
The GOP establishment gets real mad if anybody changes their mind even a LITTLE on anything.
That privilege is reserved only for the lying big spending son of a beeches in the Washington GOP.
I would just point out, that the majority of Trump-bashing which goes on in this newsgroup, appears to come from Cruz supporters.
Sure it goes both ways.
Just pointing out there is a competition between the two.
(Trump supporter, here)
I am not a Trump supporter for president but I do support his engagement in this race, he has injected a good deal of enthusiasm that may not of otherwise existed, I call the conclusions of this report an attempt to diminish and tamp down that enthusiasm it is pure BS!
Yeah Cruz and Trump will necessarily stand toe to toe in battle at some point and that will all be well and good.
CRUZ... 2016!
Oh, I disagree.
The people who give Obama a pass today are well-informed voters who agree with his anti-American agenda and completely support it - the "progressive" base. They think he isn't wrecking hard enough but they will give him a pass.
The low information voters who handed him two elections - who bought into all the "Hope" and "Change" and who felt instead of thought - have moved on.
He is no longer exciting or entertaining. That fad is over.
The new fad is the entertaining loudmouth blowhard saying he's going to make America great again, build a wall that other people will pay for, whatever sounds good.
The low information voters have found their new hero.
In september Trump said that the Syrians are in hell and we have to accept refugees.
Yeah I know he turned around and said the opposite a few days later and the stupid bought it so he ran with it.
I trust Trump to at least triple his personal wealth if he gets Hillary elected.
You crazy Trumpbots..
That seems to be all you’ve got, these days, Joe.
Hmmm...how about we turn your name calling around?
Crazy CRuzebots post COUNTLESS stories, about the same info, over and over.
Sorry, but name calling won’t make your candidate’s polling numbers magically rise.
Another Trump smear FAIL.
Keep at it, though. I’m sure these articles will have an effect on Trump’s numbers, any day now.
Speaking of Amnesty....the snake fight going on between the two Senators is getting interesting. Nice squirrel you brought to the current headlines, though ;-)
“The low information voters have found their new hero.”
Rush Limbaugh, who came up with the term “low information voters”, likes Trump. So does Mark Levin. Are those two low information voters?
Both of them also realize - by their near-complete silence on the topic - that Trump has no clear solutions or policies that aren't laughably impossible to implement.
Why offend the audience?
I think it was Larry Sabato who used the term more widely, and Rush probably picked it up from there.
We shouldn't want lawbreakers as citizens-and that's what illegal immigrants are by definition: lawbreakers. Yes, America is a nation of immigrants, but that doesn't mean we have to offer citizenship to everyone who crosses our borders.
Trump, Donald J. (2011-12-06). Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again (p. 137). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.
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