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The Victorians Were Probably Smarter Than People Today
Science Direct ^ | 2013 | Michael A. Woodley, Jan te Nijenhuis, Raegan Murphy

Posted on 12/14/2015 8:42:26 AM PST by marktwain

Abstract

The Victorian era was marked by an explosion of innovation and genius, per capita rates of which appear to have declined subsequently. The presence of dysgenic fertility for IQ amongst Western nations, starting in the 19th century, suggests that these trends might be related to declining IQ. This is because high-IQ people are more productive and more creative. We tested the hypothesis that the Victorians were cleverer than modern populations, using high-quality instruments, namely measures of simple visual reaction time in a meta-analytic study. Simple reaction time measures correlate substantially with measures of general intelligence (g) and are considered elementary measures of cognition. In this study we used the data on the secular slowing of simple reaction time described in a meta-analysis of 14 age-matched studies from Western countries conducted between 1889 and 2004 to estimate the decline in g that may have resulted from the presence of dysgenic fertility. Using psychometric meta-analysis we computed the true correlation between simple reaction time and g, yielding a decline of − 1.16 IQ points per decade or − 13.35 IQ points since Victorian times. These findings strongly indicate that with respect to g the Victorians were substantially cleverer than modern Western populations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: decline; intellegence; iq; victorians
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To: marktwain

They attribute this to “dysgenic fertility” - which means more reproduction by those with inferior genetics, which is creepy.


21 posted on 12/14/2015 9:47:09 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: MNDude
I agree with your analysis about importing folks from a low-IQ region into a high-IQ region.

Also, immigration advocates often say we get the more competent people from the sending countries, which benefits the U.S. If we assume this is true (and for many sending countries, it obviously is not), what's the result if we import the brighter fraction of a country with an average IQ of 75? (Unfortunately, there are such countries.) We're still getting people with a lower average IQ than our own native population. Getting these people lowers our country's average IQ, while losing these people lowers the sending country's average IQ. Quite the lose-lose proposition.

Also, I admit that IQ isn't everything, but it's a rough proxy for lots of behavioral qualities that an advanced nation needs.

22 posted on 12/14/2015 9:48:22 AM PST by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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To: BeauBo

They attribute this to “dysgenic fertility” - which means more reproduction by those with inferior genetics, which is creepy.

Just because it has become politically incorrect to talk about it does not mean that it is false.


23 posted on 12/14/2015 9:50:52 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Albion Wilde

...and yet that might be the very reason they were smarter !?!?!


24 posted on 12/14/2015 9:52:25 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: marktwain

The “explosion of innovation and genius” in the Victorian era probably had more to do with science finally reaching critical mass shortly before that time. I’d point especially to the Maxwell equations of electromagnetism, published in the 1860-61 timeframe.


25 posted on 12/14/2015 10:02:45 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: marktwain

We are killing off a lot a good people now in the past 20 years through constant war.


26 posted on 12/14/2015 10:03:07 AM PST by Chickensoup (speechless)
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To: MNDude
Now, if you've imported enough people from Region B into Region A, wouldn't it make sense that the average IQ in Region A is going to decline?

Great point!

Here are some embarrassing graphs...

... and here is an embarrassing list...

National IQ Scores by Country

27 posted on 12/14/2015 10:16:40 AM PST by Gritty (Syrians aren't Jews fleeing Nazi Holocaust but Nazis relocating from a bombed out Berlin-DGreenfield)
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To: marktwain

Ponder then why are there a growing number of folks that have taken up ‘steampunk’ as a hobby, an emulation, and an admiration for creative inventions that came forth from that period of time.

I submit the following as example:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=steampunk+computer&view=detailv2&qpvt=steampunk+computer&id=758A289DBED0109C1E3A56A259AD2ECC8C110A77&selectedIndex=24&ccid=HQSeXmHR&simid=607993926273860865&thid=OIP.M1d049e5e61d15b1b4e2817cfc1f93809o0&ajaxhist=0


28 posted on 12/14/2015 10:18:25 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: marktwain

Yeah, I highly recommend it, ranks among the funniest movies ever.


29 posted on 12/14/2015 10:23:14 AM PST by nomad
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To: Chickensoup; All

Here is the link to the National IQ rankings

http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

Highest Singapore 108 Next highest South Korea 106

U.S. 98 ninth place, tied with 8 other countries

Lowest Equatorial Guinea 59 Next lowest Saint Lucia 62


30 posted on 12/14/2015 10:30:20 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Gritty

Yeah, and throw batting averages in there and Asians would rule the world.


31 posted on 12/14/2015 10:56:23 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: marktwain
Muslim-majority countries prove this principle:

 Afghanistan

84

 Albania

90

 Algeria

83

 Azerbaijan

87

 Bahrain

83

 Bangladesh

82

 Brunei

91

 Burkina Faso

68

 Chad

68

 Comoros

77

 Djibouti

68

 Egypt

81

 Guinea

67

 Indonesia

87

 Iran

84

 Iraq

87

 Jordan

84

 Kazakhstan

94

 Kuwait

86

 Kyrgyzstan

90

 Lebanon

82

 Libya

83

 Malaysia

92

 Maldives

81

 Mali

74

 Mauritania

89

 Morocco

84

 Niger

69

 Nigeria

84

 Oman

83

 Pakistan

84

 Qatar

78

 Saudi Arabia

84

 Senegal

76

 Sierra Leone

91

 Somalia

68

 Sudan

71

 Syria

83

 Tajikistan

87

 The Gambia

66

 Tunisia

83

 Turkey

90

 Turkmenistan

87

 United Arab Emirates

84

 Uzbekistan

86

 Yemen

85

AVERAGE:

82


32 posted on 12/14/2015 11:12:57 AM PST by antidisestablishment (If Washington was judged with the same standard as Sodom, it would not exist.)
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To: BeauBo

Is it not true? Morons with no jobs are cranking out babies because we subsidize them. Meanwhile the affluent and intelligent. are having fewer and fewer kids.


33 posted on 12/14/2015 11:15:23 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: marktwain

I wonder what the rankings were 50 years ago.


34 posted on 12/14/2015 12:47:16 PM PST by Chickensoup (speechless)
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To: Gritty
There are some interesting numbers here. Argentina has a national average IQ of 93. The population is overwhelmingly of Italian (102) and Spanish (98) ancestry. Why does Lithuania (91) lag so far behind its neighbors Latvia (98), Estonia (99) and Poland (99)? Ashkenazi Jews average about 115 IQ, yet Israel as a whole has a national average IQ of 95. At an average national IQ of 92, Ireland lags well behind the rest of northern and western Europe, which averages around 100. So genetics is not the only factor in IQ. However, it appears that genetics predominate. Northeast Asians are the most intelligent, followed by western and northern Europe and nations mostly settled from there (Canada, Australia, United States), eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, mestizo countries of Latin America, the Middle East, and sub-Saharan Africa.

The old school anthropologists, mostly scorned by modern academia and lacking any knowledge of DNA, were more right than wrong on racial differences.

35 posted on 12/14/2015 1:09:55 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: marktwain

bmp


36 posted on 04/05/2017 2:02:30 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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