Posted on 12/10/2015 7:49:24 AM PST by RoosterRedux
Senator Ted Cruz raised questions on Wednesday at a private fund-raiser about whether Donald J. Trump, his bombastic rival for the Republican presidential nomination, has the "judgment" to be president and mused about "strength," according to two people who attended the event in Manhattan
The remarks from Mr. Cruz came as he has studiously avoided public criticism of Mr. Trump, who is handily beating the rest of the Republican field in opinion polls.
Mr. Cruz has positioned himself to be the beneficiary of any erosion of support for Mr. Trump. While he has said he doesn't agree with Mr. Trump's proposal for a ban on Muslim immigrants entering the United States, he has taken pains to praise Mr. Trump for making immigration a focal point of his candidacy.
But inside a conference room in a Madison Avenue office, with about 70 people pressed around a table, Mr. Cruz gave a candid assessment of the race, lumping Mr. Trump with another candidate whose supporters the Texas senator hopes to poach, Ben Carson, according to two people present for the remarks.
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Trump was talking about the refugees going to gulf states. He said ‘he’d like to help, but that the US has its own problems’.
Cruz flip-flopped on TPP and amnesty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI
What about cruz’s behavior in flipflopping on TPP and amnesty?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI
That “tax the rich” thingy is OLD and was supposed to be a ONE TIME THING, to bring down the national debt. You are just a nit picking TDSer.
If you were an HONEST person, you would see that Trump is a true patriot and yes, a CONSERVATIVE !
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I have called him a patriot half a dozen times in this thread alone! I never said he wasn’t one. The tax the rich thing never gets old because there is always someone to tax “just one time.” Has he changed his mind on this one or not? I can’t keep up.
As far as picking nits, yes. Words have meaning. When someone runs for political office I listen to what they have to say (and observe what they do if already in office). If Trump doesn’t believe all of these liberal positions he has espoused over the years then why did he bother to say them? If he changed his mind again and again then we come full circle to the original topic of the thread: his judgement.
Either he exercises poor judgement, doesn’t have a grasp of the issues or he suffers from diarrhea of the mouth, talking before he thinks, which again, is poor judgement.
I will never be convinced he is a conservative. He doesn’t have the street cred.
It was one poll which was hyped by cruz supporters, ignoring the other poll by cnn which was released at the same time.
He wrote a book back in 2000, ‘The America We Deserve’, he talked about the threat of illegals there, bad trade deals as well as the threat of terrorist attacks and mentioned bin laden too.
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He did. I read it. He was right. I will not argue these points one bit.
You knew I wouldn’t waste my time, didn’t you?
You’ve flung enough childish insults for now
Trump was talking about the refugees going to gulf states. He said ‘he’d like to help, but that the US has its own problems’.
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At one point he did say that. On The Factor in September he said, when cautioned by O’Reilly that there was a danger in taking in Syrian refugees in the U.S.:
“I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have toâ€
“But you know, it’s living in hell in Syria. There’s no question about it. They’re living in hell, and something has to be done.â€
I can cut Trump a bit of slack for flipping on this one because we had the SB massacre after that but he is not, as some Trumpsters like to think, omniscient. Good for him for wanting to ban all the sand people immediately after though.
You should just number them, and post the numbers:
What about cruz’s behavior in flipflopping on TPP
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I think there were three different votes in the Senate on TPA (not TPP). He voted poorly on one of them claiming McConnell lied to him. Probably true, but a Senator should know what he is voting on before he casts a vote either way. Bad vote by Cruz. I agree.
At least Cruz doesn’t make a habit of supporting the liberal agenda or flipping on so many issues over the years. Cruz is one of the most reliable conservatives in DC. The fact that we have to discuss Cruz’ bona fides as a conservative is a bit odd.
Times change and any reasonable person changes their mind, when they learn new information/things happen.
He IS a CONSERVATIVE and DOES have credibility. He's an old fashioned person, with all that that implies.
Now you are just reaching. Years ago you are saying he was liberal (big government solutions, nationalized healthcare, gun control, saying Hillary was “terrific” Secretary of State, abortion, tax the rich, etc.) but after he got sprinkled with magic fairy dust he woke up one morning and is now a stalwart bastion of conservatism. Okaaaaaay.
So his judgement then was questionable. Why is it safe to assume it is not questionable now? What will make it unquestionable in the future?
Perhaps, just perhaps, mind you, he is not a conservative. He is saying what people want to hear to get elected. Since he decided to run in the Republican primary he chose to side with the Republican base? He was, after all a Democrat. He went from being a Democrat, holding liberal ideas, donating to the most left wing of Democrats, to being a conservative? That really is a bit of a stretch, isn’t it?
He loves to listen to the crowds cheer — he says so. So, he plays to them. He is, by the way, very, very good at it.
Trump is a populist. He jumps on and off whatever bandwagon is rolling past him.
He has, however, always remained strong on defense and immigration. Those are two areas I believe him because these are the two areas he has never changed his position. Everything else? Not so much.
“I think the NYTs calls the WP and the WP calls the NYTs.”
Quite likely. Both are ultra leftist. Birds of a feather.
I tried to post civilly, rationally, and factually to you, but I now see just what and who you are.....hopeless,hapless, and rigidly blind to reality.
And as far as "saying what he thinks others want to hear and not meaning any of it", you are beyond help.
Cruz will not deport 20-30 million illegals, and until recently he was for a fivefold increase in H-1B visas.H-1B’s were DESIGNED as an utter scam. It is NOT fixable, Mr. Cruz! This would finish off America, if it still even has a chance. NO sale on this alone. VP? OK, but albeit reluctantly.
Ummm...we have a POTUS and VPOTUS that do that now.
The Washington Times has been a fairly good newspaper in the past. Is it still up to snuff?
I used to say that about the WSJ, but man has it taken a hit.
It was always weak on illegal aliens.
“I used to say that about the WSJ, but man has it taken a hit.
It was always weak on illegal aliens.”
Correct about the past WSJ’s. Today, they are flat out globalist traitors. So is NR. Every issue trashes Trump. WFB if he came back to life,would fire the lot of them!
Things don’t look good for this nation.
If Trump is done, IMO, so are we.
You are correct. Not a great deal of thought went into my posts. Not a great deal was needed.
What were/are Trumps positions on:
Sec State Clinton. At one time she was “Terrific at her job.”
Yes
Nationalized healthcare
Yes
Assault weapons ban
Yes
Tarp
Yes
Other bailouts
Yes
Stimulus 1 and 2
Yes and Yes
Abortion
Yes
Registered Democrat and Democrat donor
Yes and Yes
Taxing the Rich
Yes
The list goes on. These are not my positions. These WERE Trump’s positions. These are facts. They are not in dispute. He does NOT have conservative bona fides. Maybe he did wake up one morning and suddenly become conservative. It is possible but it is not likely. Not many people change their entire worldview that radically in such a short amount of time.
If he did, congratulations Donald Trump! Welcome to the good guys’ side. Conservatives, however, should remain very skeptical. He has changed his views too many times and too recently to be called a conservative.
I am not blind to reality. I am just being an objective observer. These were/are Trump’s positions. I am not randomly assigning them. These are based on what HE SAID!!!
The Trumpsters’ denying what Donald Trump has said and done in the past and calling him a “true conservative” is being blind to reality.
Thanks for calling me hopeless and hapless in a civil discourse. Vote for the reality TV star. Just don’t call him conservative. It is objectively not true or not proven.
It is amazing how little our congressmen and Senators know about the law and the constitution since most of them are lawyers. Same applies to most all the talking heads and the blowhards that come here to thump Trump.
We do not need any more immigrants legal or illegal, especially from muslim countries.
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