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Couple Kept Tight Lid on Plans for San Bernardino Shooting (Father Mentally Ill, ate pregnant goat)
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting-syed-rizwan-farook.html ^

Posted on 12/05/2015 11:42:48 PM PST by springwater13

The elder Mr. Farook forced his family to move out of their home in 2006, Ms. Farook said in court papers, but he continued to harass her. “My husband is mentally ill and is on medication but is also an alcoholic and drinks with the medicine,” she said. The marriage was formally dissolved this year.

Around Christmas one year, Mr. Venegas recalled, the father asked where he could buy a goat; he especially wanted a pregnant animal, saying that goat fetus was a delicacy. Mr. Venegas helped him get two. They ate one, and the family kept the other alive in the backyard, along with some chickens, where neighbors heard it bleating.

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1 posted on 12/05/2015 11:42:48 PM PST by springwater13
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To: springwater13

Around Christmas or more likely around Ramadan?


2 posted on 12/05/2015 11:47:10 PM PST by piasa
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To: springwater13

Just an observation...but when you observe Islamic men over the age of forty...they all have some form of health issue. This comes from the repeated (yearly) episode of Ramadan...when they go for twelve-plus hours a day without liquid replenishment or food. I think any lab team ever did a study on the kidney issues....more than half of all Islamic guys have serious problems.


3 posted on 12/05/2015 11:50:22 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: springwater13

“Father Mentally Ill, Ate Pregnant Goat”

Perfect explanation of his culinary preferences!;)


4 posted on 12/05/2015 11:50:30 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: springwater13

NYT introducing mental illness and substance abuse to deflect attention away from Islam.


5 posted on 12/05/2015 11:51:31 PM PST by matt1234 (Note to GOPe lurkers: I and thousands like me will NEVER vote for Jeb Bush)
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To: springwater13

Why do we allow these savages to move to America?


6 posted on 12/05/2015 11:51:53 PM PST by Pelham (Muslim immigration...the enemy is inside the wire.)
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To: pepsionice

Inbreeding does them no favors either!


7 posted on 12/05/2015 11:51:54 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: springwater13

Yeah, lets open the floodgates for these Animals.


8 posted on 12/05/2015 11:58:39 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: pepsionice

Inbreeding helps, too.


9 posted on 12/06/2015 12:09:53 AM PST by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation -- FUJB!!!)
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To: springwater13

Mr. Venegas recalled, the father asked where he could buy a goat; he especially wanted a pregnant animal, saying that goat fetus was a delicacy. 
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He could have gotten a job at planned parenthood


10 posted on 12/06/2015 12:10:24 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: pepsionice

Actually, they do have many health issues although I’m not sure it’s from Ramadan. I read somewhere that they have early onset arthritis (or some disease that affects the limbs) that puzzles doctors. I would go more for inbreeding than anything else - certainly their inability to refrain from anger and violence is a symptom of that.


11 posted on 12/06/2015 12:10:54 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: springwater13

“Around Christmas one year” seems an odd reference to muslims feasting on a goat they took some trouble to obtain. As if getting a goat for Christmas was their family tradition? Let me guess, the author was stepping lightly over the religion of Islam.

The closest Ramadan to Christmas was in Dec 1999-Jan 2000, and though there’s no guarantee this was for Ramadan, I think it probable since they procured 2 goats at one time, which is traditional, possibly one to kill at the beginning of Ramadan and the other for the feast at the end.


12 posted on 12/06/2015 12:12:18 AM PST by piasa
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To: springwater13
Father Mentally Ill
You don't say?...

13 posted on 12/06/2015 12:18:57 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: springwater13

How were/are Pakistanis allowed into this country? Our Pres and immigration has gone to hell as I recall in 69-70 I was in charge/command of a unit in the 6th Group with Pakistan as our AO. We had men taking Urdu.


14 posted on 12/06/2015 12:24:07 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: springwater13

...only ate the goat?...


15 posted on 12/06/2015 12:56:32 AM PST by balk
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To: springwater13

The idiom that says, “the apple does not fall far from the tree,” holds true here.


16 posted on 12/06/2015 1:10:52 AM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: piasa
...I think it probable since they procured 2 goats at one time, which is traditional, possibly one to kill at the beginning of Ramadan and the other for the feast at the end.

Not to mention a month of "pleasure" with the second one.

17 posted on 12/06/2015 1:20:26 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: miss marmelstein

Actually, it’s more straight forward than that and well known to those in the culture. From a local news source here:

ABU DHABI // The statistics are stark: out of every 1,000 babies born in the UAE, about 75 suffer from a birth defect, the majority of which are of genetic origin.

Those unsettling numbers are forcing a re-examination of the long-held practice of consanguineous marriage - meaning to a blood relative- which is one of the strongest traditions in the country.

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/health/science-offers-answers-to-family-marriage-gene-problems


18 posted on 12/06/2015 1:48:59 AM PST by Shark24
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To: springwater13

This article is just one long pretrial screed of self-serving testimony to protect anyone else in that family from prosecution for collusion.

The fact the father was a nutjob Muslim doesn’t make a difference, nor do all the other tidbits about the terrorist and his wife. There is nothing there to prove the couple “kept a tight lid” on anything. Nothing about the other visitors in the night, nothing about online actions, nothing that speaks PROOF.

There is a very complicated backstory and run up here as to how this happened (radicalization) and we aren’t going to get the truth from a couple of effing NYT reporters, nor probably from the government now since they turned the home over to reporters for tabloid pictures.


19 posted on 12/06/2015 2:10:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: pepsionice

Osama bin Laden supposedly had kidney problems


20 posted on 12/06/2015 2:19:54 AM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back - Donald Trump)
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