Posted on 12/01/2015 10:41:52 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
The best part is when she asks the obvious follow-up -- is a path to legalization "amnesty"? -- and he won't even make eye contact.
There's a spectrum of answers to this question on the right, of course:
1. Amnesty is citizenship without preconditions. That's the strictest definition, and naturally the one preferred by Beltway Republicans like Marco Rubio in his Gang of Eight days. (Marco Rubio circa 2010 had a different view.) As long as you're forcing illegals to jump through some sort of hoop, be it learning English, paying back taxes, going to the back of the line, etc, that's not amnesty -- even if you're granting them citizenship. Anything short of immediate voting rights for illegals, no questions asked, is A-OK.
2. Amnesty is citizenship. That's Jeb Bush's position, as I understand it. Jeb will legalize 'em, let 'em stay in the U.S. and work, but allowing them to become full citizens with voting rights goes too far in rewarding them for breaking our laws. The most an illegal can aspire to be is a permanent legal resident. Beyond that lies amnesty.
3. Amnesty is legalization unless you've improved security first. That's Ted Cruz's position (and Marco Rubio's current position), again as I understand it. This isn't so much a literal definition of "amnesty," which is a matter of legal status, as it is a political compromise between the two prongs of comprehensive immigration reform. Legalization (i.e. work permits) is on the table if and only if we see concrete improvements in internal enforcement first. Border hawks got suckered in 1986 by accepting promises of future border security in return for immediate grants of amnesty; despite the Gang of Eight's best efforts, they won't get suckered again.
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Boy, it didn’t take you long to start on Trump’s hair..
I can see you’re a big issue guy.
You seem to be the one with 'the best parody', here, FRiend.
Maybe he's been called in to take over for nick on the day shift.
Because hair is an important issue. Got it.
You’ve been called out...for your ‘slithering in from time to time’....so, stop with the accusations and name calling and, well, slither on back out.
Are you sure you're not tired of funding the world with trillions in taxes for reckless foreign policies while paying to feed, medicate, school and jail millions of illegal aliens?
America first? That's very unique concept in 2015 America.
Thanks!
LOL....you never know!
Yep....crystal clear, dear :)
Thank you!!!
3. Amnesty is legalization unless you’ve improved security first. That’s Ted Cruz’s position (and Marco Rubio’s current position), again as I understand it. This isn’t so much a literal definition of “amnesty,” which is a matter of legal status, as it is a political compromise between the two prongs of comprehensive immigration reform. Legalization (i.e. work permits) is on the table if and only if we see concrete improvements in internal enforcement first. Border hawks got suckered in 1986 by accepting promises of future border security in return for immediate grants of amnesty; despite the Gang of Eight’s best efforts, they won’t get suckered again.
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The problem with that, even if security is implemented, is it can be turned off instantly at any time by executive whim.
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Thanks, Vision.
I support Trump’s statements and plans on illegal immigration and deportation. I think that Cruz’ statement (referenced here) is inadequate.
I will enthusiastically support Cruz or TRUMP as a nominee! I will support a Cruz/Trump or a Trump/Cruz ticket!
Will you??
I will continue to comment and lurk when I see fit!
I will also give either Trump or Cruz sufficient lattitude in making less than a perfect response or statement.....rarely!
I will support both or either....when the time comes!
Will you?
“I have a feeling that the big beautiful door is going to be the one going out and the one coming back in will be much smaller. But Trump can’t exactly say that. If you know what I mean. :-)”
Exactly. Trump has said many times how unfair it is to those waiting in line. I know anyone wanting in will have to get at the end of that line.
Legalizing the illegals just kicks the can down the road for a generation. They will have anchor babies and those anchor babies, most likely subsidized at tax payer expense, will become democrat voters.
The problem is not just a porous border and lack of visa overstay enforcement. The problem is employers that hire illegals and government handout programs that sustain the illegals.
Doing nothing with them is better than legalizing them; however, not much better until and unless the anchor baby problem is eliminated. Then I could care less if the illegals choose to live "in the shadows" because they can just as easily choose to return to their countries of origin.
Please explain how Cruz gave Obama TPP.
Trump/Cruz, yes. Cruz at the helm, no. He is for letting illegals stay here. That means the status quo for invaded states, which I just escaped. I don’t want my new home invaded and with Cruz it would be.
Sir or Mam......like it or not Cruz will be our president one day!
He will be vastly, vastly superior in all areas, immigration included, as any that we have seen in many years....
I will support Trump as nominee, but no other than Cruz or Trump!
I don’t have 2 candidates and I am not too concerned with a VP at this point. I support Trump.
In all honesty I think that Trump believes as do I that just announcing the roundup will begin will motivate the illegals to flee in droves. He said he it would take about 18-24 mos to get rid of them and then he would build the wall so I’m thinking he plans to leave the one way door wide open to let them leave. Just doing show round ups for TV will scare the poop out of them.
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