Dr. Ben Carson : 2016 Candidacy is FINISHED with GOP Debate III "Arrogant, Stupid" Mannatech LIES

Patton@Bastogne ^ | 201510-29 | Patton@Bastogne

[Patton@Bastogne]

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First, there's no doubt that the MSM-Debate folks were trying to screw Dr. Ben Carson at Wednesday's GOP Debate III in Colorado ....

just like the MSM and "Willard" Romney did Herman Cain in 2012 (et al).



It's not "fair", but it's "blood sport politics" (just ask Sarah Palin).



Accordingly, Dr. Ben Carson's campaign staff effectively POLITICALLED KILLED their boss for NOT being pro-active about the question of Mannatech.

Somebody on Dr. Ben Carson's staff should be FIRED.

Period.



It's a "legal fact" that once money or "renumeration" trades hands, the two parties involved have an "association".

That's what the RICO laws are all about.

Quid Pro Quo.



It's my suspicion that the Mannatech product genuinely helped Dr. Ben Carson's medical condition.

That's a good thing.



But Dr. Ben Carson (for reasons I cannot even fathom) labeled questions about his "association" with Mannatech as ...

liberal news media lies and "PROPAGANDA".



WHY did Dr. Ben Carson do something that STUPID ?

Didn't he know the story and evidence (including pictures that I've posted today at Free Republic) were AVAILABLE to EVERYONE ?

Hell, it only took me FIVE minutes at Google to locate a score of images showing Dr. Ben Carson speaking at Mannatech conferences ($ 120,000 for three speeches).



Doesn't Dr. Ben Carson and his Campaign Staff KNOW-REMEMBER the 2012 Herman Cain debacle ?

Haven't they EVER heard of "Google Searches" ?

Holy Mackerel ... what COSMIC incompetence on display.



And folks still believe that Dr. Ben Carson is "intellectualy" (not mentioning the MORAL aspect) of running a SUCCESSFUL presidential campaign against Hillary Clinton ?

Dr. Ben Carson is a BRILLIANT surgeon --- BUT a complete, utter ARROGANT FOOL to think that he can HIDE "anything" during a presidential campaign.

Period.



Doesn't Dr. Ben Carson and his campaign Staff REMEMBER how the MSM interviewed people who had been Junior High School colleages of Mitt Romney in the 2012 campaign ?



Rest assured ... EVERY malpractice lawuit (imagined or real) against Dr. Ben Carson ...

and EVERY traffic stop sign violation ...

and EVERY "scorned" romantic woman in his life ...

and EVERY disgruntled and jealous staffer / nurse / janitor ...

who's ever been within 100 miles of Dr. Ben Carson ...

will be BRIBED to LIE about him ...

and that doesn't include "questionable" donations from Mannatech, Walmart, Captain Kangeroo, or Mother Theresa.



These are the reasons that I consider Dr. Ben Carson's lie (in front of 11 million TV viewers) the "beginning of the end" of his 2016 presidential campaign.

Heck ... Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton's "Opposition Reseach Teams" probably have already collected the serial numbers on the $ 100 bills used in the $ 120,000 total transactions between Dr. Ben Carson and Mannatech.



Finally, Dr. Ben Carson's "nuclear-powered political base" is sincere Evangelical Chrsitians.

They DEMAND 100.0001111 percent honesty, especially from fellow "Christians" running for political office.

I predict the beginning of a "slow-drip" MSM news release process (similar to Hillary's e-mail scandal) ...

secretly financed by Yeb Bush and Marco "Amnesty" Rubio

to slowly DESTROY Dr. Ben Carson's "shield of Christian ethics".

And just like Herman Cain in 2012, the Ben Carson campaign will STUPIDLY release documents slowly, always behind the MSM / Yeb Bush "Scandal Eight Ball" ...

instead of a rapid 100-percent FULL disclosure of "every dime" paid by Mannatech to Dr. Ben Carson.



Meanwhile, back at the 100-million dollar Yeb Bush campaign, TV commercials are NOW being prepared to TELL the whole Mannatech story ...

including TV advertisement interviews with the scores (?) of "innocent victims" of the "greed-driven-alliance" between Dr. Ben Carson and Mannatech.



Yeb Bush and Karl Rove are DESPERATE to DESTROY Ben Carson. They will succeed.

Fox News is 100-percent fighting FOR Yeb Bush.

Soon, we'll see George Will and Dr. Krauthammer and A.B. Stoddard on Fox News ... (falsely) crying in their beer ...

about how "tragic" it is that the Iowa Evangelical Christian base has ABANDONED Dr. Ben Carson because of his "secret ethical flaws".



And Dr. Ben Carson will be polling at a PATHETIC 7.5 percent (Real Clear Politics average) by the time the November GOP Presidential Debate IV rolls around.



Qui Bono ?

Hillary Clinton, Yeb Bush, John Kasisch, Marco "Amnesty" Rubio, Donald Trump, Chris Christy, Mike Huckabee, Carley Fiorina, Rick Santorum, Brett Bair, George Will, Dr. Krauthammer, Michael Murdoch ...

and did I mention Donald Trump ?



Dr. Ben Carson's 2016 presidential campaign is "over".

Period.














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[ConservativeMind]

I really don’t see how the Mannatech situation matters or will impact him much.

Product endorsements don’t destroy any presidential candidate, from my memory. Trump always said the companies he worked with in business and through The Apprentice show were “phenomenal, wonderful companies that were the best in their industry.” This was patently not true by any standard under almost all circumstances, but it was schtick that was accepted in the given contexts.

Have you taken Donald Trump to task for his lies on companies, in exchange for money?

[ConservativeMind]

Will you stop it with your freaking long, “blank line” posts?

[V K Lee]

Dr. Ben, you were set up, Sir. WTP attempted to warn you; not once but a number of times. This is politics 101 and the MSM plays for blood. They are a pro at building you up in order to see you fall HARD. You’re not the first and *alas!* certainly will not be the last man chosen for this ‘honor’. Ask Sara Palin, Herman Cain, or any other ‘outsider’ how this worked out for them. You and I did not agree on a number of issues but I was never against you. It was only felt you were not yet ready for prime time in the corral. Perhaps this latest incident proves the point. Good luck to you in whatever your future might bring. God Bless.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Well, perhaps you're right ... and Dr. Ben Carson (and his worth-its-weight in GOLD 30-percent Iowa poll numbers) will be safe from Yeb Bush ...

or not ...



There are five (5) GOPe-RINO presidential candidates (in single digits) that would sell their own mother ...

to get their bloody hands on Dr. Ben Carson's 30-perecnt Iowa poll share ...



Will it cost $ 5 million in "destruction TV ads" to get that job done by New Year's Day ?

Will it cost $ 15 million in "destruction TV ads" to get that job done by New Year's Day ?

Will it cost $ 25 million in "destruction TV ads" to get that job done by New Year's Day ?



Yeb Bush and Marco "Amnesty" Rubio have a combined $ 125 million dollars ... to SAVE their ENTIRE political careers from EXTINCTION


Dr. Ben Carson doesn't stand a chance ...


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[Spunky]

If I remember correctly the question had something to do with Ben Carson sitting on the board of directors and they were found guilty in some law suit. He said that was a lie. He was never on the board. He said he takes the stuff and he feels it has helped him.

[Patton@Bastogne]

WTP ?

[Patton@Bastogne]

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I'm glad that the product helps Dr. Ben Carson, and that Mannatech had the brains to formulate it in the first place ...

Folks are mistaking my "realpolitik" analysis with dislike of Dr. Ben Carson

Frankly, my only beef with him (at this point) is his FLUSHING a political campaign down the toilet because of a STUPID lie on television in front of 11,000,000 Americans


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[truth_seeker]

Reagan made commercials, before he entered politics.

[Norseman]

You, sir, are full of it. And your link goes to some irrelevant site, by the way.

Nice try though...no, on second thought, pathetic try to bring down a respected man.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Nobody goes to post at this level on Free Republic, believe me, I have watched 15 years of it, unless they HAVE SOME KIND OF PERSONAL AGENDA AGAINST SOMEBODY.

So the question.... do you know him, or his people or have some particular burning individual interest to take him to task? What's the connection? You can't very well be a disinterested third party. Care to expand??

[Catsrus]

Based on this criteria, then all Ds should drop out and NOW. Obama should also have been impeached.

[bigbob]

tomorrow’s Friday, put this garbage out at the curb

[Patton@Bastogne]

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I've also seen you around here for a long time ...


Again, I don't harbor a grudge against Dr. Ben Carson ...

in fact I've purchased several DVDs of his movie "Gifted Hands" and given them away to family, friends, democrats.



Some folks play fantasy football.

I do political analysis; sometimes correct and sometimes not.

There's absolutely, positively NO "Quid Pro Quo" in my sharing this analysis.

Period.



I simply believe that (three weeks from now) that the "big" event from the GOP Presidential Debate III will NOT be Ted Cruz's counter-attack on the MSM Debate Moderators (although it was a great move by Ted Cruz) ...


Rather, looking back, even Rush Limbaugh (I believe) will be discussing how that debate was the "beginning of the end" of Dr. Ben Carson's presidential campaign ...

because of Dr. Ben Carson's STUPID, AVOIDABLE lie to 11,000,000 American Conservative voters on national television.



No personal vendetta here ... and no "Denial" either ...



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[Patton@Bastogne]

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let's see where three weeks from tomorrow (Friday) takes this story ...


It's possible that Dr. Ben Carson's campaign can do a damage-control effort and "effectively" assuage those Iowa 30-percent poll supporters that's he's not a DAMNED LIAR ...

as the "political assassin" (Huckabee, Lindsay Graham or John Kasisch) will label Dr. Ben Carson in a 15 million dollar national TV ad buy.


Dr. Ben Carson's a pretty decent guy ...

I just don't see him surviving the "hell" that Yeb Bush and Karl Rove and Marco Rubio have planned for him before Christmas ...


I guess then we'll see what "garbage" and what's "truth" ...

Get back to me then ... and frankly, be ready to eat your hat ...



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[V K Lee]

“We The People” are a lot smarter than ‘folks’ seem to suspect. Fast talk in a lib society....everything has a letter or number ATP APP HSD FICA ECC EKG ..HELP!!

[ozzymandus]

I did not bother to read the stuff you posted.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Can’t tell you how many nights of sleep I’ve lost at the thought of an association between Dr. Ben Carson and Mannatech. And to think this had to come up just before Halloween. Oh my.

[RitaOK]

CNN interviewed Armstrong Williams early this evening. He gave as excellent a run down as could be given. Carson contracted four speeches over the course of 11 years for this company, through a speakers bureau. The company was looking for a neurosurgeon opinion on the product for a PBS Healthy Eating program.

Carson likes the product and takes the product. He is into natural remedies and foods as well as traditional medicine and diet. He was perfect for the Mannatech. He still likes the product, but got out of the contract for anymore speeches or productions because they came under investigation and he was opposed to the written script contents he was given in Las Vegas, where the promo speech was to be made. He did not give the speech at all and has not returned to them.

[fireman15]

I don’t buy that this is a significant stumbling block for Dr. Carson. I do not believe that he has the charisma to take this all the way to the presidency. As far as this incident however, it just is not going to stick.

[Lakeshark]

I'm not a Carson supporter.

The problem with what you posted: This is what ANY candidate with an R behind their name will face.

Every. One. If the most honest, most incredible candidate ever, say Ronald Reagan, they would be treated the same way in this age of despicable deception.

Yet you put up this thread, helping to destroy another candidate.

Kindly think about what you're doing, you play right into the hands of the democratic/media complex with this crap.

Not smart sir, and certainly short sighted. At best.