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Here we go: Defense secretary says U.S. troops will engage ISIS in “direct action on the ground”
Hotair ^ | 10/27/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 10/27/2015 2:21:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

They already have engaged them, of course, per the otherwise successful raid to liberate an ISIS prison in Iraq last week that ended with one American soldier being killed. That sounds suspiciously like combat, and if there’s one thing Barack Obama stands for, it’s that the era of combat in Iraq is over.

How can combat not be combat? Easy. Just call it something else. It wouldn’t be the first Orwellian euphemism this White House has used to reassure progressives that they may be at war but they’re not at war-war.

Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook had been blunter on Thursday: “Our mission in Iraq is the train, advise and assist mission. This was a unique circumstance. … This was a support mission in which they were providing support to the Kurdistan Regional Government. U.S. forces are not in an active combat mission in Iraq.”

But before Carter left the podium on Friday, he offered this explanation for why he couldn’t reveal more details of Wheeler’s actions: “This is combat. Things are complicated.”

Indeed.

The rules of the official advise-and-assist mission meant the Americans were to “stay behind the last covered and concealed position,” but when the fighters they were supporting began taking fire and casualties, they stepped in and acted. As Pentagon spokesman Colonel Steve Warren noted from Baghdad, “In the chaos of combat, when you see your friends being hit, I would submit to you that you’re under somewhat of a moral obligation.” Again, combat.

“Combat,” in theory, refers to engagement with the enemy in the course of an indefinite foreign occupation involving many thousands of troops. Barack Obama certainly doesn’t support that, except in Afghanistan, where he only kind of supports it and only because his haste in ending combat in Iraq has turned out to be a catastrophe. What the U.S. did last week in that ISIS prison, as Carter explains below, was a “raid.” A raid is a time-limited pinprick strike involving a few dozen soldiers with a very specific purpose. We won’t engage ISIS in “combat” but we’ll “raid” the sh*t out of them. Just like we wouldn’t “bomb” Libya, we’d participate in “kinetic military action” there. Just like Russia’s invasion of Crimea, which the White House didn’t want to respond to, wasn’t an “invasion” but an “uncontested arrival.” Just like the attack on the consulate in Benghazi wasn’t terrorism, it was a “spontaneous protest” by a mob incensed at a YouTube video critical of Islam.

Carter can put as much perfume on his BS as he likes but what he’s telling Congress, and you, here is to prepare yourselves for more American casualties in Iraq as U.S. special forces wade more deeply into the fight. And of course, the task of announcing this falls to him, not to the commander-in-chief, because Obama doesn’t want to have to symbolically face his base after promising them the Iraq mess is in America’s rearview mirror. The question to ask yourself is: Why now? Why, after umpteen thousand ISIS atrocities, has the White House decided to risk the lives of America’s most elite troops for operations like freeing prisoners in Iraq? The obvious answer, I think, is that it’s a small bit of muscle-flexing in response to Russia’s much more significant incursion across the border in Syria. Our Middle Eastern Sunni “allies” can’t help but notice lately that, when you’re in a pinch, it may be more useful to have Vladimir Putin as a friend than Barack Obama. So here’s Obama making a show of helping the Iraqi government in rescuing prisoners with American boots on the ground in support to demonstrate his own good faith. More of this to come, no doubt.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ashcarter; bootsontheground; carter; combat; congress; dod; illegal; isis; obama; obamaisis; obamasyria; targetingassad; troops
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1 posted on 10/27/2015 2:21:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Will it be non-combat combat?


2 posted on 10/27/2015 2:22:02 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama can’t let Putin show him up.


3 posted on 10/27/2015 2:22:34 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

we can’t even hit tem from the air so what is the point?


4 posted on 10/27/2015 2:24:02 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ilovesarah2012

That’s all it is. Lil’ Barry saw worldwide respect and appreciation for someone liquidating McCain’s frensh, and had to jump in.


5 posted on 10/27/2015 2:24:17 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shades of LBJ!


6 posted on 10/27/2015 2:25:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ("If you use FR and don't donate. It is my personal view that you are a Left Wing or Rino plant.")
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To: SeekAndFind

I still can’t believe we have a Sec. of Defense who was never in the military.


7 posted on 10/27/2015 2:26:26 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, in my experience, with a Democrat in the White House, there will be NO casualties to ‘report.’

So, it’s all good.

@#$%^&*!


8 posted on 10/27/2015 2:27:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind

They won’t change the ROE on ISIS, I’d hope... wouldn’t want to hurt them or anything.


9 posted on 10/27/2015 2:27:19 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is libertye)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Combat,” in theory, refers to engagement with the enemy in the course of an indefinite foreign occupation involving many thousands of troops.

"Combat", in actuality, involves one of THEM shooting at one of US. Period.

Been there, done that, don't have the "Slow Reflexes" medal to prove it. No disrespect meant to those who have been hit, great reflexes or not.

10 posted on 10/27/2015 2:28:43 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: SeekAndFind
“Combat,” in theory, refers to engagement with the enemy in the course of an indefinite foreign occupation involving many thousands of troops.

"Combat", in actuality, involves one of THEM shooting at one of US. Period.

Been there, done that, don't have the "Slow Reflexes" medal to prove it. No disrespect meant to those who have been hit, great reflexes or not.

11 posted on 10/27/2015 2:29:55 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: manc

“we can’t even hit tem from the air so what is the point?”

Best case is simply that the community leader is trying to coattail on this popular action.

Worst case it is to provide overwatch and intelligence to the jidhadis. Embed in the Iraqi units (why now?) who are hooked up to Russian intel, discover the plans, inform their higher ups who inform the jihadis and thus compromise the operations.


12 posted on 10/27/2015 2:30:05 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (NATO and ISIS sittin' in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do our boys have air support?

Or will they be sitting ducks like this CiC has made them in Afghanistan???


13 posted on 10/27/2015 2:31:00 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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14 posted on 10/27/2015 2:33:18 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: SeekAndFind

This administration is bound to bungle. They will tie up any troops committed with so many restrictions that we will be “treated” to numerous public be-headings and burning of our soldiers. “In declining states the leadership intuitively chooses the most harmful course of action.”- F. Nietzsche


15 posted on 10/27/2015 2:34:22 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: SeekAndFind
Parents, wives, brother's, sisters, cousins,Aunts and Uncles....If you have a son, brother, sister, nephew, spouse in this theater.....call your congressmen and senators and ask them if your relative has real bullets and is allowed to use their weapons. Heretofore, firing unless fired upon was verboten by the Rules of Engagement....this goes for our police etc. today. We would not be in that area today if our warriors had been allowed to fight and to win. Obama is NOT to be trusted....hold your elected accountable and make sure we are sending these men and women into harms way to WIN.
16 posted on 10/27/2015 2:36:32 PM PDT by yoe (Few things are more worthless than an unloaded shot gun)
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Yeah I saw it too. I’ve run Spybot.
Even the thread above on the same subject, I got the `Malware!’ warning.


17 posted on 10/27/2015 2:41:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The White House thought this one up while they were testing Obama’s newly harvested WEED


18 posted on 10/27/2015 2:42:05 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Army Air Corps
It will be a nonlinear kinetic engagenment
19 posted on 10/27/2015 2:42:31 PM PDT by oldsicilian
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To: SeekAndFind

How many troops will 0bama tell ISIS to kill this time? Think he doesn’t have them on speed dial...or Jarreet, either? How about Huma? Hillary?


20 posted on 10/27/2015 2:44:32 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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