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To: jimbo123

Looks like the bloom may be off the rose.


2 posted on 10/27/2015 5:01:49 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Well it won’t be Carson. Hillary would trounce him.


5 posted on 10/27/2015 5:03:41 AM PDT by boycott
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To: circlecity

Nope, this poll was of “adults”. That means nothing.


8 posted on 10/27/2015 5:07:53 AM PDT by dforest
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To: circlecity

“Looks like the bloom may be off the rose.”

from article:

“Carson is supported by 26 percent of GOP primary voters, followed by Trump at 22 percent, according to the CBS News/New York Times poll released early Tuesday.”

Does that give you a clue?


13 posted on 10/27/2015 5:11:32 AM PDT by odawg
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To: circlecity

When Carson makes campaign appearances, do you see big crowds? I don’t or have not. If you have links showing me these crowds, please do so. TY


30 posted on 10/27/2015 5:19:54 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: circlecity
Looks like the bloom may be off the rose.

I don't see Carson being any better. In fact I'd pick Trump over him any day.

45 posted on 10/27/2015 5:29:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: circlecity; Jim Robinson

It is less than 600 voters nationwide for a national poll? That’s ridiculous. It’s ‘registered voters’. That’s ridiculous.

It has a margin of error of 7%! That’s beyond ridiculous all the way to totally unprofessional.

They used census figures to weight it to the ‘adult’ US population? Even that’s ridiculous since the census includes democrats, republicans, independents, communists, Nazis, and every other “ism” you can think of.

It needs to be weighted to a REPUBLICAN poll determining the age, sex, religion, etc. of REPUBLICAN likely voters.

And even in this idiotic poll, 26-22, the margin of error says that Trump could be leading this by 28-19, what most national polls with any kind of legitimate sample size are getting.

Finally, in our era ‘landline/cell phone’ is not good enough. I intentionally have only a cell phone, and I intentionally will not answer any call that doesn’t have the name already in my address book so that the name pops up. If they don’t leave a message, or if they leave a message I’m not interested in, then I don’t get back with them.

They have discovered how easy it is to manipulate polls against Trump by manipulating female and evangelical numbers.


51 posted on 10/27/2015 5:31:44 AM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: circlecity; Jim Robinson

It is less than 600 voters nationwide for a national poll? That’s ridiculous. It’s ‘registered voters’. That’s ridiculous.

It has a margin of error of 7%! That’s beyond ridiculous all the way to totally unprofessional.

They used census figures to weight it to the ‘adult’ US population? Even that’s ridiculous since the census includes democrats, republicans, independents, communists, Nazis, and every other “ism” you can think of.

It needs to be weighted to a REPUBLICAN poll determining the age, sex, religion, etc. of REPUBLICAN likely voters.

And even in this idiotic poll, 26-22, the margin of error says that Trump could be leading this by 28-19, what most national polls with any kind of legitimate sample size are getting.

Finally, in our era ‘landline/cell phone’ is not good enough. I intentionally have only a cell phone, and I intentionally will not answer any call that doesn’t have the name already in my address book so that the name pops up. If they don’t leave a message, or if they leave a message I’m not interested in, then I don’t get back with them.

They have discovered how easy it is to manipulate polls against Trump by manipulating female and evangelical numbers.


52 posted on 10/27/2015 5:31:51 AM PDT by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: circlecity

A few days ago, Iowans were called “morons” and “genetically modified” (a la corn) because polls in that state were showing Carson overtaking Trump.

Given this latest poll, I guess the ENTIRE country is now mentally challenged. Iowans can take some consolation in that. /s


64 posted on 10/27/2015 5:37:44 AM PDT by randita
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To: circlecity
I don't dismiss any polls, but there is something very strange going on. Carson hasn't done anything in a month. His last "activity" was his comments about Muslims. Hard to believe that would carry him this far. On the other hand, Trump packs stadiums with 10,000-20,000 people, continues to lead almost every state in multiple polls within the state.

One thing is certain, when Carson "leads" anywhere, he is going to start to draw fire like he cannot imagine---the kind of fire Trump has sustained for five months.

72 posted on 10/27/2015 5:45:28 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: circlecity

“Looks like the bloom may be off the rose.”

Sounds like two candidates with essentially equal chances of winning the nomination, based on current data. These are within the margin of error most likely. The real story is that the rest of the field is so far behind. Together, these two are responsible for around half of the potential primary votes. IMHO this says a lot about how distrusted career politicians are at this point in time.


87 posted on 10/27/2015 5:56:02 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: circlecity
Looks like the bloom may be off the rose.

Do you sometimes feel like the Mainstream Enemedia's marionette?

Look in the mirror - you might see the strings.

Dance, puppet!

102 posted on 10/27/2015 6:07:41 AM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: circlecity

Yes, I always trust unbiased polls from CBS News and the New York Times.


116 posted on 10/27/2015 6:16:47 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: circlecity

If you are willing to accept a large enough rate of error you can get any poll to say anything you want it to say.

In spite of what people think and the media say the error rate of a poll has nothing to do with its accuracy.

It means a similar poll take of the same group of people will produce similar results.

The acceptable standard is 3%; this means that 97 times out of a hundred you will get the same result from the same group of people.

According to some of the “internals” (details about the poll) this poll’s error rate was a little over 6 %.

An interesting, knowm, but unreported factoid.


128 posted on 10/27/2015 6:25:17 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: circlecity

Trump is a problematic candidate for conservatives for many reasons, but he’s still far more reliable (and electable) than the affable but mostly clueless Ben Carson.


198 posted on 10/27/2015 7:24:40 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: circlecity

I was surprised to read this m because of Trump leading so much , that until I saw the internals of the poll itself which is basically useless.


202 posted on 10/27/2015 7:34:53 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: circlecity

Yeh its over Trump needs to drop out. I’m screaming. The OAN/Gravis poll just out today with Trump at 34.7% and Carson trailing at 17.2% in line with Reuters and Morning Consult. They used a 2600 person sample. But Yahoo has this BS ABC poll up on their homepage. Carson leading Trump Nationally. It never ends.


324 posted on 10/27/2015 11:53:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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