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F.B.I. Chief Links Scrutiny of Police With Rise in Violent Crime (Justice Department "fumes")
New York Times ^ | October 23, 2015 | MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MATT APUZZO

Posted on 10/24/2015 8:59:33 AM PDT by reaganaut1

CHICAGO — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Friday that the additional scrutiny and criticism of police officers in the wake of highly publicized episodes of police brutality may have led to an increase in violent crime in some cities as officers have become less aggressive.

With his remarks, Mr. Comey lent the prestige of the F.B.I., the nation’s most prominent law enforcement agency, to a theory that is far from settled: that the increased attention on the police has made officers less aggressive and emboldened criminals. But he acknowledged that there is so far no data to back up his assertion and that it may be just one of many factors that are contributing to the rise in crime, like cheaper drugs and an increase in criminals who are being released from prison.

Baltimore residents last month at a vigil for Kirk Butler, one of 13 people shot, and four killed, in a single September weekend.

“I don’t know whether that explains it entirely, but I do have a strong sense that some part of the explanation is a chill wind that has blown through American law enforcement over the last year,” Mr. Comey said in a speech at the University of Chicago Law School.

Mr. Comey’s remarks caught officials by surprise at the Justice Department, where his views are not shared at the top levels. Holding the police accountable for civil rights violations has been a top priority at the department in recent years, and some senior officials do not believe that scrutiny of police officers has led to an increase in crime. While the department had no immediate comment on Friday, several officials privately fumed at Mr. Comey’s suggestion.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blacklives; bluelivesmatter; comey; doj; fbi; lawenforcement; nypd; obama; officers; police; rafaelramos; rudolphholder; wenjianliu
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1 posted on 10/24/2015 8:59:33 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

If the Thugs, thieves and hard core criminals think things are tough with local policing, just wait until THE National Police Force takes over. Any guesses what they will be called? I mean before they crack down on all of the degenerates that THINK govt is their friend.


2 posted on 10/24/2015 9:03:12 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If God himself said every 50 years debt should be erased, and land returned, who am I to disagree?)
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To: reaganaut1

Comey will really be fuming when the DOJ refuses to indict Mrs Clinton.


3 posted on 10/24/2015 9:04:38 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: reaganaut1

“With his remarks, Mr. Comey lent the prestige of the F.B.I., the nation’s most prominent law enforcement agency, to a theory that is far from settled: that the increased attention on the police has made officers less aggressive and emboldened criminals. But he acknowledged that there is so far no data to... “

Prestige?What Prestige?The FBI has proven to be as corrupt as the Congress,The IRS,The EPA and the President of the United States.So who is he kidding?

When I see the FBI investigating the Crimes that Obama and his underlings have committed in the last 7 years then I’ll believe that they are a legit law enforcement agency.

It seems to me that Right Now they’re very selective in what crimes their going to investigate and what Perps their going to be focusing their attention on.

Maybe when they truly start to enforce our constitution and laws then they’ll get their respect back.


4 posted on 10/24/2015 9:06:39 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Glad2bnuts
BlackShirtsMatter?

Named after Hitlers initial shock troops, the Brownshirts?

Before the SS mopped up and took over?

5 posted on 10/24/2015 9:09:32 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: reaganaut1
Uh well, if my boss' boss' boss' boss', who ends up under the jurisdiction of the POTUS when things go hooey, says that we are too aggressive towards African Americans and that he will prosecute, well gee, I guess I'd look the other way when doing my job.
6 posted on 10/24/2015 9:10:51 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: reaganaut1
may have led to an increase in violent crime
May have?

The crime rate in Baltimore in the last 2 years shows that is HAS led to an increase in violent crime.


7 posted on 10/24/2015 9:12:08 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: reaganaut1

Has anyone done a study to see if doughnut sales have gone up? Active shooter call comes in, “Sorry, we’re on break right now.” Or, “Geez we’re on the other side of town with a flat tire. Or, “You kiddin’? Risk getting sued or thrown in jail for doing our job? No thanks.”


8 posted on 10/24/2015 9:15:30 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: mosaicwolf

Where is the special prosecutor???? WHERE??


9 posted on 10/24/2015 9:17:21 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: reaganaut1

Good article here by Heather Mc Donald.

Opinion Commentary

Obama’s Tragic Let ’em Out Fantasy

The president leads the charge to cut the prison population, but mass incarceration isn’t the problem. Rising crime is.

By Heather Mac Donald
Oct. 23, 2015 6:25 p.m. ET
312 COMMENTS

President Obama paid a media-saturated visit in July to a federal penitentiary in Oklahoma. The cell blocks that he toured had been evacuated in anticipation of his arrival, but after talking to six prescreened inmates he drew some conclusions about the path to prison. “These are young people who made mistakes that aren’t that different than the mistakes I made and the mistakes that a lot of you guys made,” the president told the waiting journalists. The implication was that anyone who had smoked marijuana and tried cocaine (as Mr. Obama had) could land in a place like the El Reno Federal Correctional Institution.

The conceit was preposterous. It takes a lot more than marijuana or cocaine use to end up in federal prison. But the truth didn’t matter. Mr. Obama’s prison tour came amid the biggest delegitimation of law enforcement in recent memory. Activists, politicians and the media have spent the past year broadcasting a daily message that the criminal-justice system is biased against blacks and insanely draconian. The immediate trigger for this movement, known as Black Lives Matter, was a series of highly publicized deaths of black males at the hands of the police. But the movement also builds on a long-standing discourse from the academic left about “mass incarceration,” policing and race.


The demonization of the police and the criminal-justice system must end. As the Black Lives Matter movement marches forward with no apparent diminution of strength, there are signs that the very legitimacy of law and order is breaking down in urban areas. Resistance to lawful police action is becoming routine. Officers are reluctant to engage, given the nonstop campaign against them. Homicides in 35 large U.S. cities this year were up nearly 20% by August. Liberal elites have successfully kept attention focused exclusively on phantom police and criminal-justice racism while squelching even the most nascent discussion of the crime-breeding chaos of broken families at the heart of inner-city underclass culture. We are playing with fire.

Ms. Mac Donald is the Thomas W. Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. This op-ed was adapted from the 25th-anniversary issue of the institute’s City Journal, where Ms. Mac Donald is a contributing editor.

http://www.wsj.com


10 posted on 10/24/2015 9:21:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: mosaicwolf

“Comey will really be fuming when the DOJ refuses to indict Mrs Clinton.”

Comey can “fume” until he explodes. It will make no difference considering that a precedent has been set now.

Impeachment or any criminal charge whatsoever against Hillary will Never happen as long as Loretta Lynch is Attorney General.

IBD Editorials

IRS’ Lois Lerner Skates; An Ugly Precedent Is Set
80 Comments

10/23/2015 06:53 PM ET

Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner refuses to answer questions on Capitol Hill on April 9, 2014, at a hearing to investigate the extra...

The Law: The Justice Department declined to file charges against IRS enforcer Lois Lerner, who singled out Tea Party groups for scrutiny on political grounds. With no accountability, it’s now open season on dissidents.

Is there anyone out there subject to an Internal Revenue Service audit or a multiyear delay in approval for tax-exempt status who won’t be concerned that the process is politically rigged against them?

That’s the message the Justice Department sent when, in a classic Friday night news dump, it decided to not file charges against IRS tax-exempt groups chief Lois Lerner. In a letter to the House Judiciary Committee, Justice said that while it found “mismanagement, poor judgment and inertia,” there was no case for a criminal prosecution.

This is absurd. Lerner was caught red-handed targeting Tea Party and other conservative groups, wrote partisan emails to prove it, then engaged in a massive cover-up effort — with a suspiciously crashed server, an oddly missing BlackBerry and plenty of excuses.

She evaded even more accountability by shielding herself with the Fifth Amendment in Congress. The consequences to her have been . .. retirement on a full pension with all her bonuses to a multimillion-dollar mansion in the deep D.C. suburbs.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/102315-777241-irs-lois-lerner-skates-but-an-ugly-precedent-is-set.htm


11 posted on 10/24/2015 9:24:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: reaganaut1

Director Comey is absolutely correct. Aggressiveness is not brutality in police work or war - it is a necessity. We enabled our enemy by restrictive rules of engagement in the sandbox with bad results. The same thinking is restricting our police on the streets and the results will be even worse because air strikes are not an option.

Look no further than New York where they have mostly removed stop and frisk as a law enforcement tool - the number of shootings is continuing to climb. Officers are constantly calculating risk vs reward in police work. There is little risk in “not acting” in police work. When they perceive elevated risks in doing proactive police work they will do less of it and the criminals are emboldened. Do not forget - coinciding with this moment in time is the new push to release thousands of offenders back onto the streets by the Fed government and many states. On top of that, illegal immigration has undeniably allowed more criminals onto our streets.

Combine this with demographics (more young males 16-24), relaxed attitudes towards narcotics (fuels the majority of crime), and a very liberal court system that releases more offenders. The left is great at presenting ideas that sound good in theory, but they always deny human history and the fact that those they talk about in theory do not share the core values necessary for such theory to work. The results will not be good.

It is not a good time to be in police work - especially in the inner-cities. It won’t be a good time to live there either.


12 posted on 10/24/2015 9:27:42 AM PDT by volunbeer
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"The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Friday that the additional scrutiny and criticism of police officers in the wake of highly publicized episodes of police brutality..."

Gee, what happened to the otherwise obligatory "alleged"?

13 posted on 10/24/2015 9:30:12 AM PDT by jim macomber ("Bargained for Exchange" "Art & Part" "A Grave Breach" "Sovereign Order " - www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: KeyLargo

Glad you posted this! I was going to recommend it. She proves statistically that (a) blacks are not the majority of those sentenced to federal prison (Hispanics are) and that (b) there is nobody in there for possession of a small amount of marijuana, which of course was the big claim of the pro-druggies. All of the people in federal prisons are there for major crimes, not just because they were, as Obama implies, “in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

And of course, the real victims of this are going to be the communities into which they are released. Probably most of those released will be black...and that’s the last thing a struggling black neighborhood needs, more gangbanger punks with prison skills.

Their families are probably cussing out Obama up one side and down the other. I know some black families who have been inflicted with a criminal prison relative they had hoped they would never see again.


14 posted on 10/24/2015 9:33:20 AM PDT by livius
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To: TomGuy

This has been going on in NJ for years (in the cities); when police were chastised for “racial profiling” (which actually involved many factors other than race - such as out-of-state plates with no visible luggage & such), the police simply “stood down” and let the flow of drugs and guns pass uninterrupted into NJ cities (and NYC).

Considering the density of our population and our minority population (which roughly mirrors that of the nation), NJ has very few incidents of cops shooting blacks - they simply let them run wild in their ghettoes and only get involved when they leave the welfare hatcheries to loot & kill.


15 posted on 10/24/2015 9:33:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: reaganaut1

Baltimore, Chicago, New York to name a few. They all have one thing in common. DimoKKKRAT control and high concentrations of blacks.


16 posted on 10/24/2015 9:35:29 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: reaganaut1

If blacks were removed from this nation, the USA would be a rather peaceful, safe country......but I’m a racist so what do I know..


17 posted on 10/24/2015 9:36:05 AM PDT by Willie From Austin
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To: Glad2bnuts

The Natiinal Police Force will consider people like us the threats. I don’t see anything happening to the “degenerates” except maybe getting jobs in the new law enforcement system.


18 posted on 10/24/2015 9:37:03 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: reaganaut1

Well, the Leftists WANTED increased lawlessness and now they’ve got it...and they’re STILL not happy, LOL!

American Patriots? Keep your powder dry and aim small, miss small. :)


19 posted on 10/24/2015 9:37:43 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: reaganaut1

he’ll be gone for “personal” reasons very soon...


20 posted on 10/24/2015 9:38:55 AM PDT by cherry
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