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Why hasn't the US eradicated the plague?
BBC News ^ | 15 October 2015 | Vanessa Barford

Posted on 10/15/2015 4:54:02 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

It's nearly 50 years since the US landed men on the moon, but Americans are still dying from a disease that ravaged Europe in the Middle Ages. Why hasn't the US eradicated the plague?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: animalworship; arizona; bubonicplague; bubonicplaguemap; california; colorado; environmentalism; fascism; importdisease; plague; plaguemap; regulations
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To: WhiskeyX

I thought they were talking about leftists.

Never mind. :-)


41 posted on 10/15/2015 6:24:27 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: DBrow

The approach to eliminating the plague is to find the means to destroy the organism in the animal population using organisms hostile to the disease and safe for humans and the animals.

yes, there is a Hollywood creature feature and mad scientist movie in that approach to eliminating the disease.


42 posted on 10/15/2015 6:27:13 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Perhaps they have been looking at the whole thing wrong.

The Japanese have been in the forefront of developing treatments based on the body’s immune system.

Basically though we are still using Chemo and Radiation for treatments when we should be at another level.

As I said it’s all Big Business.


43 posted on 10/15/2015 7:01:38 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: MARKUSPRIME; Leaning Right
It's not immigrant-borne, it's rodent-borne, transmitted by affected fleas, and it's been here forever, well before there was a United States to illegally immigrate to. We get a few cases per year, mostly in the affected states of the southwest.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6433a6.htm?s_cid=mm6433a6_w

It's easily treatable with antibiotics if caught in time.

44 posted on 10/15/2015 7:04:45 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: WhiskeyX

If we eradicated it there would be protests from leftist tards complaining that we were violating its right to exist, just like when we eradicated Smallpox. For all intents and purposes it was very rare in the US until the horde of invaders from south of the border increased its incidence in the US.


45 posted on 10/15/2015 7:08:09 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: cripplecreek

So many dots over my favorite vacation areas! Even one over the place I was born.


46 posted on 10/15/2015 7:50:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: WhiskeyX

I think you missed the point of my comment - Some reporter in Britain is asking why WE haven’t done something - since when are we responsible for solving the worlds problems?


47 posted on 10/15/2015 7:55:53 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

I have a co-worker/two that said their kids had hoof-mouth disease recently. I was like “Where the F* do you pick up HMD??”, then I remembered the POOR, poor ‘immigrants’ from S. of the border that weren’t turned back/etc.....

But, since nobody seems to care about a ‘little’ HMD, what’s a bit of plague going to do? Whip up the Citizenry to make their capital/D.C. do the right thing? Ha!


48 posted on 10/15/2015 9:22:35 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

My daughters got hand foot and mouth disease (not hoof, that’s an animal disease which can be carried in smuggled meat and hides).

Anyway, it’s an ordinary viral illness of childhood, rarely severe, no vaccine, not attributable to bad habits or poor hygiene, or immigrants.

Sure there are diseases that come with uncontrolled immigration. Chagas, TB, tropical fevers, polio-like D68, etc. Hoof-mouth and anthrax in smuggled bushmeat, yum. HFM disease isn’t one of them.


49 posted on 10/15/2015 9:54:47 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: WhiskeyX
They answered their own question within the article.

It's the existence of this "animal reservoir" that makes the plague hard, if not impossible, to eradicate, experts say..."Unless we exterminate rodents, [the plague] is always going to be around," Epstein argues...

There was only one plague reservoir before the 19th century, in Central Asia - that's where the plague that devastated Athens (maybe), Constantinople (maybe), and Europe (almost certainly) originated from. Same sort of thing as it is in the U.S., small rodents. Now that it was imported and got out into the prairie dog population, there are two world reservoirs. It's a little lesson in real world epidemiology and it's hooked in pretty well.

You can vaccinate a portion of that population because a portion is all you'll ever get, and hope that over time the susceptible will die out and the immune will shrink the reservoir to nothing. That's likely to take a fair number of generations. Or you can eradicate the entire population of the host. That turns out to be a little harder than it sounds, as the Australians found out with respect to rabbits.

That's why we haven't eradicated it. Try to imagine the outcry if we were to attempt to wipe the prairie dogs out. We hold up major construction projects for insects, for heaven's sake.

50 posted on 10/15/2015 10:23:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: heartwood

How interesting. I had not heard of “hand, foot, and mouth disease.” What sort of symptoms does it have?


51 posted on 10/15/2015 11:08:04 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Who wants to hear you sing about tragedy?" Gerard Way)
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To: Tax-chick

Blisters around the mouth, in the mouth, soreness, reddened hands in my daughters’ cases. Feet not involved. Moderate fever, cranky.

Their brothers didn’t come down with it, nor did the whole preschool. I’m guessing most children fight it off without very visible symptoms.


52 posted on 10/15/2015 4:45:38 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: WhiskeyX

Because you can’t. Are you going to kill every single rodent in the country? Good luck with that.


53 posted on 10/15/2015 4:47:10 PM PDT by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: WhiskeyX

There won’t be a new outbreak, this is pure fear mongering at it’s most offensive and disgusting.


54 posted on 10/15/2015 4:53:24 PM PDT by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: heartwood

Thank you. Who knows when this might be useful information.


55 posted on 10/15/2015 5:05:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Who wants to hear you sing about tragedy?" Fall Out Boy)
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To: discostu

“There won’t be a new outbreak,....”

So, you think that you can wave your magic wand and halt the natural processes of genetic mutation which produced the pla which made the previous deadly pneumonic plagues possible.

“this is pure fear mongering at it’s most offensive and disgusting.”

What’s “disgusting” is the monumental and deliberate ignorance that disregards the obvious dangers of a potential pandemic that tends to recur with each deadly mutation of the pathogen.


56 posted on 10/15/2015 10:41:01 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: discostu

“No, of course not. No one suggested so. What you can do is to work towards eliminating the disease in those source populations by making them unsuitable hosts for the disease.


57 posted on 10/15/2015 10:43:45 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Diseases tend to mutate towards LESS lethal not more. They need to host to survive, killing the host is an evolutionary negative.

The only monumental and deliberate ignorance here is people thinking Black Plague is going to come roaring back. It won’t. It was a minor disease that thrived on Europe’s terrible sanitary conditions and man’s complete lack of understanding of viruses and treatment. In the modern world with modern medicine and sanitation it’s a very difficult disease to get and a very easy disease to treat.


58 posted on 10/16/2015 7:58:24 AM PDT by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: WhiskeyX

Which is as much unobtanium as wiping out all the rodents. You cannot get rid of the Black Plague, your very article points out that it is impossible.


59 posted on 10/16/2015 7:59:48 AM PDT by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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60 posted on 10/18/2015 10:23:02 AM PDT by CedarDave (Hillary for incarceration not inauguration)
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